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What battle?

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What is the battle in question. Ottomans marched into Ulcinj, took control from Albanian irregulars and handed it over to Montenegro. There are three sentences about the battle in the text of the article, two uncited and one cited by work of Albanian historiography. I tried to find more sources about this battle, but until now I could not find any. Dervish pasha did fight irregulars, but as far as I understood, almost all of this battles happened after Ulicnj was handed over to Montenegro, at the end of 1880 and beginning of 1881.

I will try harder to find additional sources about this battle, but it might be good to change the subject of this article to something like Ottoman 1880 surrender of Ulcinj to Montenegro which is no doubt notable subject, and to rename the article accordingly. Any thoughts?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 11:51, 12 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Antidiskriminator Yeah, it was a battle. I assume you know what "battle" means. If we agree to change the subject, probably "Albanian resistance in Ulqin 1880" is appropriate. I am taking your suggested subject as a joke, there was an Albanian resistance, not just a surrender. By the way, do you have any problems with Albanian historiography? You have used some Yugoslav era sources, some of which seem to be a propaganda tool instead of serious scholarship. See Ražnatović for example. Ktrimi991 (talk) 15:34, 18 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]