Talk:Bette Davis Eyes
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Am I the only one who remembers a mid 90's video of a cover of this? It played on MTV at least in Europe and it was pop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 12:46, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
Czech version by Marie Rottrová (Dívka, která spí jen tak)
After perusing the Wikipedia guidelines on notability I feel I can in good conscience restore mention of the Czech version by Marie Rottrová: if any editor supports the deletion as non-notable I would ask for a corroborating citation from the Wikipedia guidelines. I am puzzled by an editor's being moved to delete mention of a version of Bette Davis Eyes by a longstanding high-profile recording artist - albeit not in the English speaking world - while having no apparent issue with the song's being mentioned as being the audition piece of a current Oz XFactor contestant. I'm not saying mention of Dean Ray's version should be deleted - just making the point that individual Wikipedia users will have individual responses as to whether a version of a song is notable: if an individual doesn't deem a version notable he or she does not have to note it but to take the step of editing it out there should be a definite breach of Wikipedia guidelines. As I've said I would ask any editor who wishes for the Marie Rottrová mention to remain deleted to cite the Wikipedia guidelines which would support that position. I do admit to having included no source info in my original edit - an omission which I have rectified.--Cherrylimerickey (talk) 01:50, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Wow. Someone's really determined to get his own way. Re the undoing of my edit:
1) WP:WTAF says nothing about notability but is being creatively interpreted by the offended editor to support his actions. If indeed notability is dependent on the existence of an English Wikipedia article on the singer then the Dean Ray version should definitely be excised - it's blue not red but the actual article is on the 2014 season of the Oz X Factor: Dean Ray himself has no article. At least Marie Rottrová has her own article if on a non-English wiki: perhaps the offended editor isn't aware that the blue (cs) after her name represents an interwiki link?
2) My source does indeed ID the Rottrová recording as a Bette Davis Eyes cover - the images of both the sleeve & the single clearly display the title of the original English language song in parenthesis.
That said - I'll let it ride. However I like to think people will look at this talk page & be aware of the Marie Rottrová cover. I feel sure foreign language renderings will be of interest to anyone who reads a Wikipedia article on a song. --Cherrylimerickey (talk) 18:08, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Bette Davis Eyes?
- Maybe watching this video would help: YouTube video-Bette Davis Eyes
- H Padleckas (talk) 22:55, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
- When this song came out, a woman I worked with in Memphis, TN claimed she was the inspiration for it. Her name was Carol; I don't remember her last name. She knew one of the song writers and was interviewed on a couple of local radio stations. I'm usually pretty skeptical about stuff like this (people claim all kinds of things), but I didn't have any trouble believing her: I swear, she was the spitting image of Bette Davis.
- D Gish (talk) 19:10, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, but the onus is on "new wave" advocates, and repeated attempts to add a highly questionable and definitely non-RS source do not do the job. Why use the notoriously erratic and undependable about.com when there are sites like allmusic.com to rollingstone.com to discogs.com to billboard.com. and more? These are professional music sites created by genuine experts in their fields; several, including allmusic, have found a high degree of acceptance as sources in academia - which about.com never has and never will because of the self-identified nature of their "guides." The "source" here, a certain Steve Peake, is an about.com "guide" - an amateur enthusiast who volunteers to write for the site. To reiterate - "new wave" needs an RS. What is currently here as a "source" is little more than a WP:MOS "casual mention" from an article of questionable merit that emphasizes Carnes' credentials in - adult contemporary, pop, and country. Furthermore, even if a legitimate source can be found for "new wave" (and it can, without too much trouble), that categorization is neither definitive nor exclusionary.
- As it happens, nearly every source above has a different genre for this song, with "pop, "rock," and "adult contemporary" leading the list, and they will be added with appropriate real sources. A better source for "new wave" should be found and added.Sensei48 (talk) 16:39, 30 April 2014 (UTC)