Talk:Blue raspberry flavor

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Redirect?[edit]

Is a redirect here really better than a blank article? I doubt most people who type "Blue raspberry" are looking for the Wu-Tang. Unfortunately, I have no info to create a stub (hence my initial browse for the article). --Morbid-o 12:45, 12 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Note to future generations: it's been taken care of. Melchoir 06:14, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Is there such a thing as a "blue raspberry"?[edit]

The phrase "supply of fresh blue raspberries from Oregon" seems to suggest that there is such a thing as a blue raspberry, but see Talk:Rubus leucodermis. Should references to "blue raspberries" be replaced with a better name? Melchoir 06:14, 25 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Blue raspberry, today mainly an artificial flavour, originally was obtained from British Columbia wild grown West Coast raspberries(Rubus leucodermis)in the US known as Whitebark raspberry ssp. bernadinus. I think that this should not be forgotten. The original common name "blue raspberry" is still alive with our Canadian Indians and the US Navajos(they also use "frambuesa azul" which means blue raspberry).--Canadianpit 23:27, 7 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
http://www.blueraspberrymedia.com/ - That appears to be the source for the quote in question. I've removed it, as that's hardly reputable, and to my knowledge there's no such thing as a "blue raspberry". If I'm wrong, feel free to add it back, with a proper reference. pbones 22:57, 28 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Copyvio?[edit]

CorenSearchBot spotted the text of the original article as copyrighted material. I am removing the copyrighted material and replacing it with a new article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cordel1977 (talk • contribs)
The copied material was reverse infringement, as the text evolved naturally here before it was placed at http://www.natural-food-color.com/News/206/, so any or all of the original material may be reinstated should someone so desire. VernoWhitney (talk) 13:45, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Spurious citation[edit]

The first citation is spurious -- the website is a seed company that happens to use both "blue" and "raspberry" in the same page, with some sort of logical leap on the part of a Wikipedia editor suggesting that the common flavor is based on this plant. In any case raspberries/blackberries are rather difficult to identify and most of them look highly similar. I doubt the flavor is meant to recall any particular species. --♦♦♦Vlmastra♦♦♦ (talk) 00:34, 5 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Use to differentiate between the red of strawberry flavor?[edit]

Are there any viable sources that explain how the usage of the blue dye was originally to differentiate between raspberry and strawberry flavorings? I've always assumed this was the case 81.99.27.237 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 16:13, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, I have been unable to find any sources describing the history of this color. I wonder also. Please post if you ever find something. Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:09, 26 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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Dubious[edit]

Multiple sources directly contradict what is written in this article see:

https://www.bonappetit.com/entertaining-style/pop-culture/article/what-is-blue-raspberry-flavor

http://mentalfloss.com/article/29273/what-heck-blue-raspberry

https://www.tastecooking.com/raspberries-turned-blue/

https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-blue-raspberry-flavor-2017-1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.70.25.101 (talk • contribs) 09:34, February 23, 2019 (UTC)

That's some good stuff. When I get some time I'll try to incorporate the material into the article. (Though the dubious tag is misused so I am going to remove that.) oknazevad (talk) 15:36, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The flavor and color are not natural and do not derive from raspberries[edit]

This general edit was needed to put into accurate perspective that the blue raspberry flavor and color are artificial food ingredients used in the United States since 1958 to give uniqueness to confections, such as a snow cone. The flavor and color have nothing to do with Rubus leucodermis, a North American raspberry with dark purple (not sky blue) fruit and juice. On the R. leucodermis talk page, I provided this discussion below. Zefr (talk) 18:28, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]

This edit removing reference to a blue raspberry applies because the supposed use of juice from R. leucodermis fruit for flavoring and coloring foods, such as in the image, is an urban myth, explained partly here. Blue raspberry flavor - and the blue color used to manufacture the liqueur, Blue Curaçao - derive from a common, synthetic, food-grade organic compound called Blue 1.

R. leucodermis is not commercially cultivated to any extent sufficient for making juice concentrates or commercial flavors, its juice is a dark purple (not sky blue, as in the image), and its flavor is too tart (without sweeteners) to be used in ice cones, ice cream, or other confections. There is no WP:RS source to support that this fruit is used for commercial raspberry flavors or blue raspberry colors.