Talk:Bog turtle

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This article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page as Today's featured article on August 30, 2010.

Article milestones
Date	Process	Result
December 7, 2009	Peer review	Reviewed
December 17, 2009	Good article nominee	Listed
February 26, 2010	Peer review	Reviewed
May 9, 2010	Featured article candidate	Promoted
Current status: Featured article

Turtles (inactive)

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This article was intensively edited during the Fall of 2009 and the Spring of 2010 as a high school assignment (WikiProject AP Biology 2009). The collaboration between the students and the wider Wikipedia community culminated in Featured Article status being granted to this article.

Archives

Archive 1 Archive 2.

Spring Cleaning

The second archive of this discussion page has recently been completed. If new issues present themselves, please comment on this newly cleaned talk page.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 16:21, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oxygen

Such behavior is indicative of the bog turtle's ability to survive without oxygen. This statement, without the necessary expansion, is misleading.--Wetman (talk) 02:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why? A previous section says "The bog turtle's preferred habitat, sometimes called a fen, is slightly acidic with continual wetness. The constant saturation leads to the depletion of oxygen, subsequently resulting in anaerobic conditions". Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 12:14, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I agree that it is slightly misleading, as it can't survive without any oxygen. Hypoxia ≠ no oxygen, and therefore I think it would be sensible to change "survive without oxygen" > "survive at low oxygen levels" levels could also be replaced with concentrations, but I'm not sure if the general reader will understand that. Smartse (talk) 13:07, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

How about linking to Hypoxia (environmental) again? Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 14:38, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Page 28 of this PDF is where I initially got that information. It seems to say that bog turtles can survive in an environment with little oxygen. When hibernating though, they bury themselves under mud and sometimes shallow water and stay there over winter.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 15:42, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Some Bibliography webcite links

Bloomer, Tom J http://www.webcitation.org/5sNB6YyQV
Pittman, Shannon E.; Dorcas, Michael E http://www.webcitation.org/5sNB0BXaC
Shiels, Andrew L http://www.webcitation.org/5sNAmXhBt
Walton, Elizabeth M http://www.webcitation.org/5sNAZwaUE Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 16:11, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, what's this for?--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 22:43, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:LINKROT. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 09:58, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, but I haven't had any problems with the links. Are others having trouble?--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 16:37, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Not to my knowledge, but the idea is to archive for prevention. Especially PDFs because they wouldn't be in Google cache or webarchive. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 23:10, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. Thanks.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 01:11, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Main page

36.7K views on the main page yesterday. http://stats.grok.se/en/201008/Bog_turtle Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 22:54, 31 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's great! Hopefully those views represent people who now know a thing or two about a very important (and of course cute) turtle!!--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 01:10, 1 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Although, compared to something like this...--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 15:31, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps my AP class can adopt that one and take it to FA. That would be sooooo cooooool.--JimmyButler (talk) 17:41, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That would certainly draw interest in the project!!--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 21:44, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

cool page

Nice. TCO (talk) 23:59, 1 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Why thank you! :-) NYMFan69-86 (talk) 03:12, 2 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

You guys did a wonderful job!! This is one of the best wikipedia pages I have seen.Thompsma (talk) 06:34, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Took about a dozen editors over 8 months to put this one together; I'm very happy with it. And I haven't forgotten about the help you gave. Check us out now over at Painted turtle: some small things being hashed out before we put it up for FAC.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 06:49, 17 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I took a look at Painted turtle and love what you are doing. I just finished the ecology page and I'm hoping to draw people in to give it a critical review. I nominated it for GA a while back, but got busy and didn't finish the edits. If anyone who did such a fine job on this article would like to take a look at ecology and forward some suggestions - this would be awesome. Ecology is such an important hub for these natural history articles - it would be good to have it living up to standard. I'm hoping to branch out a bit into places like niche construction or other ecology sub-articles. I put the Long-toed salamander together when I first started wikipedia and it needs some serious work. Keep up the good work!!Thompsma (talk) 20:27, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! Long-toed salamander looks great: tough work encompassing all subspecies, eh!? You pushing for FA? Give me a couple of days and I'll be more than glad to drop a review over at Ecology, certainly it's an important topic. By the way, I've had some discussions here about starting a turtle wikiproject, interested? If you ever need help with anything else, drop me a note. :-)--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 21:46, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mr. Butler - Why Do I Need to Know This?

Without a Trace - listed on this page (a lot of quotes - so use find (control+F) and type Bog Turtle.

Danny: What do you know about bog turtles?

Samantha: Bog turtles?

Danny: Apparently, they're an endangered species.

Samantha: Bog turtles... who knew?

Indeed --- who new! --- well I DID-- by virtue of Wikipedia:WikiProject AP Biology 2009. Cheers!----JimmyButler (talk) 17:17, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh that's perfect! Finally some recognition for this little guy!--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 19:47, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Additional sub-headings

In some places this article could use additional sub-headings. In Ecology and behavior, for example, it would be helpful to have diet, breeding, predators, and disease inserted. Any thoughts on this?Thompsma (talk) 18:13, 4 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ref errors

Two, see https://toolserver.org/~dispenser/cgi-bin/rdcheck.py?page=Bog_turtle. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 16:43, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Video

There's a VOA video (can't link it here for some reason) about the turtle which is in the public domain, it could be uploaded to Commons and embedded in the article if anyone is interested. FunkMonk (talk) 01:39, 31 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]