Talk:Bold Lane

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A fact from Bold Lane appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 May 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Bold Lane car park, used by shoppers in Derby, England, is one of the ten most secure places in the world, alongside Air Force One, Area 51, and Fort Knox?

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NPV?

I don't think that anyone in security would recognize a parking garage as a secure place. Compare, for example to the deck of a submarine, a bank vault, or a prison. The article lacks NPV, and is being reverted by violet/riga.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.81.161.25 (talk) 16:50, 12 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

The references prove the claim. violet/riga (t) 22:23, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The references only prove the claim because the claim is fuzzy, and not appropriate for an encyclopedia. "Recognized" without a statement of by whom it is recognized is silly. The BBC doing two stories doesn't mean it's recognized by serious practitioners in the field. At best, it means it has been written about by a journalist. The two BBC references reference either a Christian magazine, or a BBC general interest science publication. Which means that this isn't citing to original sources. But even if it was, it seems the inclusion could well have been cheeky and sarcastic, rather than serious. (Update: I'd missed zsig's comment below about the inclusion. If this article stays, I think it's worth working to enure it's reasonable.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.81.161.25 (talk) 19:27, 13 May 2007 (UTC).[reply]

Car park articles?

We've had endless debates about whether or not all schools should have their own articles. How about car parks? ;) violet/riga (t) 19:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I say - no! (And apologies if the tag for speedy deletion was misapplied...) I can at least see how some schools might be notable (Columbine etc) but a car park? Kim dent brown 19:53, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Odd, isn't it! The thing is here that the car park is the main item returned when Googling "Bold Lane" (a very busy area of Derby) and has featured in news articles, studies about security systems and computer control, and listed (as stated) as being in the top ten of the most secure buildings in a scientific magazine.

My apologies for the rash use of "stupid" in my edit summary - I didn't mean it offensively, though it's hard to see how it couldn't be taken as such. violet/riga (t) 20:05, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

NP - no offence taken re 'stupid'. I still can't believe there's a notable car park...! Kim dent brown 21:33, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Take it to AfD if you must - I am sure that not every car park is notable, but this one may be, just about. -- ALoan (Talk) 20:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I want to see pictures of this place. The article is really interesting. I definitely would not delete it. Some schools deserve articles and some do not. This parking lot deserves an article, while I know dozens that do not. Clerks. 13:01, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"10 most secure places" study

I'm pretty sure the claim that this car park is one of the 10 most secure places in the world isn't true. I own a copy of the issue of BBC Focus that's cited here - for a start, the article is hardly a "study" of the most secure places anywhere, more a general interest article throwing together some examples of highly secure facilities. Secondly, Bold Lane is mentioned specifically in a "car park" category - I think the intent of the article was to say that Bold Lane is probably the most secure car park around, not one of the most secure buildings. I haven't got the magazine to hand right now, and because this article has a front page mention I'm not confident enough to change it - could someone check up the facts and see whether the claim actually is justified? --ZsigE 12:42, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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