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There seems to be a lot of duplication here! 86.2.106.90 19:31, 5 May 2006 (UTC)Richard

Does anyone know why there are no Egyptians who qualify as as BPP's?[edit]

Just wondering why it was the although Egypt was officialy a British Protectorate from 1914 until 1922 it doesn't figure on the 1949 Order in Council List? Freedom1968 (talk) 16:13, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Because the 1949 order only dealt with countries that were protectorates in 1949. Perhaps some Egyptians might be prerogative BPPs if they were born while Egypt was a British protectorate and have never become a national of any country in the meantime. But prerogative BPP status is a rather obscure area and it's difficult to know. — Blue-Haired Lawyer t 23:16, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarifcation. British Nationality law is a real nightmare, surely there aren't any other countries in the world which have such complicated rules? Freedom1968 (talk) 18:35, 21 May 2012 (UTC)

Kenya?[edit]

I understand that Kenya was a crown colony and not a protectorate, hence if a resident of Kenya didn't get Kenyan citizenship, wouldn't that make them a British overseas citizen rather than a British protected person? Count Truthstein (talk) 20:28, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Apparently is was both. It's explained here:
'Technically, "Colony of Kenya" referred to the interior lands, while a ten-mile coastal strip (ostensibly on lease from the Sultan of Zanzibar) was the "Protectorate of Kenya".'
I'm guessing it would depend on where the person was born. — Blue-Haired Lawyer t 15:43, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
This is a good explanation. It seems that this is the case with several colonies/protectorates, even though they seemed to be governed as a single unit. Count Truthstein (talk) 15:44, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

More BPP's[edit]

In addition to the two countries I added to the table (Swaziland and Zanzibar), should we not add the following countries? They were not British protectorates, but British Protected states and some inhabitants at least must have had BPP passports

• Brunei • Canton Island • The Malay States (Johore, Pahang, Negri Sembilan, Selangor, Perak, Kedah,Perlis, Kelantan, and Trengganu) • The Maldive Islands • The New Hebrides • Kuwait • Bahrain • Qatar • Oman • Trucial States (Abu Dhabi, Ajman, Dubai, Kalba, Ras al Khaimah, Sharjah, Umm al Qaiwain, Fujairah (added in 1952) • Tonga • Palestine • Transjordan • Iraq

Egypt was formally a British Protectorate between 1914 and 1922, so although the various Orders in Council listing BPP territories did not list it, there must have been a few BPP holders.

Not sure about the following


• Nauru (administered by Australia) • New Guinea (administered by Australia) • Solomon Islands (administered by Australia) • South West Africa (administered by South Africa) • Western Samoa (administered by New Zealand)

Would be interested to hear views on the above. Freedom1968 (talk) 08:16, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

The list concerns only those protectorates which in people having BPP status today. Swazliand was a protected state before independence and Zanzibar was treated like one. — Blue-Haired Lawyer t 13:23, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

BHL, the UKBA website, (http://www.ukba.homeoffice.gov.uk/britishcitizenship/othernationality/britishprotectedperson/protectorates/)from which I took this info listed both along with the others. Do you have supporting sources to suggest that persons who did retain BPP status in those territories have all lost it? Freedom1968 (talk) 15:19, 14 July 2013 (UTC)