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Two small queries

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Both in the History section. (a) In the sentence that starts "In 1921 and 1921..." what should the second date actually be? (b) In the sentence that starts "In 1936 the coats of arms of the 19 districts and the cities of Latvia were carved..." how many cities of Latvia are involved here, as it woudl be nice to have that figure too. HeartofaDog (talk) 11:54, 9 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Instant response - spectacular! thanks. HeartofaDog (talk)

About Latvian legion burials

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As some don't believe that there are quite many Latvian Legion burials ir Riga Brother's cemetery I feel the need to explain situation. I don't understand why my reference was declared wrong because it clearly states that during German occupation in World War II several Latvian soldiers who served in the German army (Latvian Police Regiments and Latvian Legion) and were killed in battle or died in Riga military hospitals, was buried in Brother's cemetery. For exemple Voldemārs Veiss. Also 39 very young boys who were mobilized as Air Force (Luftwaffe) assistants and were killed in a air raid in Riga were buried there. Her's excerpt from the original source: 11 officers and soldiers of the Latvian Army who had joined or had been mobilized in the Latvian Police Regiments and the Latvian Legion were buried till 13 October in 1944. 39 Air Force assistants who had died during the air raid on 19 September were buried with military honours in the circumference of the terrace facing the Riflemen Gate at the Riga Brethren Cemetery on 22 September. (http://en.rigasbralukapi.lv/apbedijumi-1940-1990/) I admit that situation with many recent reburials is a little bit different because many Latvian army and Latvian Legion officers who were reburied in the cemetery was also Recipients of the Military Order of Lāčplēsis so it was their right to be buried there. However there are several cases when Latvian army and Latvian Legion officers who were not recipients of Order of Lāčplēsis was reburied in the Cemetery. Most notable example is Latvian army and Latvian Legion colonel Vilis Janums who were reburied in the cemetery in 2007. Her's reference in latvian (http://www.cikaga.com/cikaga/viewtopic.php?t=1782&sid=9d6859ad79314b274079e7bcffd51590) So it is wrong to think that Riga Brother's cemetery is free from Latvian Legion burials.--Semigall (talk) 14:14, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

There is no question that legionaries are burried there, but this is allready in the original source for that sentence and there is no need for additional source covering only one period of time. I seriously doubt that currently having been in legion alone qualifies one's remains for burial there, which is why source was requested - this is encyclopedic article that should just give general overview of what kinds of burials are there, not cover invidual cases where a person qualifying for burial there for other reasons also by coincidence happens to have been in legion (e.g. example you give is a former riffleman). However I investigated further how that sentence has developed over time and honestly it looks to me that you simply were trying to copyedit and introduced factual mistakes by accident - first in 2012 you changed Latvians to Latvian Legion soldiers, likely believing that's the only group it refers to, and then few months ago you changed it again believing that LKO members were buried there only during the interwar period, leading you to assume that reburials, which would be more modern compared to LKO burials, refer to the other group mentioned in the sentence. In reality, as your own sources should show, there were various WWII related groups burried there and LKO still qualifies as reason to reburry remains there. I think the wording now used in thus section covers all groups currently or formerly burried there; who currently qualifies for burial there and has not been/won't be reburied elsewhere in future requires further investigation, a few years back there were not sources covering it clearly enough~~Xil (talk) 19:44, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
I looked around web, seems it still isn't covered - there are some sources extensively detailing burials of riflemen, but none of these goes into details on what groups other people burried there are from - there is no reason to emphesize legion, when there's reportedly also guerrilas of various alignments, people from other German units, Soviet soldiers, communists and their victims and so on. And if they all were listed there's a chance it wouldn't cover everyone or groups no longer buried there would be included ~~Xil (talk) 21:28, 10 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]
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