Talk:Brussels Metro line 2

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Chronology of station openings

"The first stations on the small ring road were opened in 1970 with tramways connecting Rogier station with Porte de Namur/Naamsepoort metro station. The Louise/Louiza metro station was opened in 1985 and the Simonis metro station in 1986..."

I don't understand. "Simonis," here, is talking about the Elisabeth station, right? So you're saying that the (pre)metro line between Rogier and Elisabeth was opened for service before they built Yser and Ribacourt stations along the same line? This needs to be clarified. Criticalthinker (talk) 00:41, 20 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Criticalthinker,

I had a cursory look on the internet but could not find any more details off the bat about this. My understanding is that Simonis premetro station (as it was called then in all directions) was completed in 1986 but only opened for service in 1988, at the same time as the conversion of the premetro line 2 into full metro and the opening of the extension between Rogier and Simonis (now Elisabeth). If that is the case, the current wording "was opened (...) in 1986" is indeed confusing. Jason Lagos (talk) 14:45, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I checked the Dutch Wikipedia article and it explains it a bit better: Simonis metro station was opened on 6 October 1982 together with Osseg(h)em, Pannenhuis, Belgica and Bockstael metro stations as an extension of the north-western branch of metro line 1A from Beekkant to Bockstael. Four years later, on 23 June 1986, Simonis premetro station was opened, together with a short premetro tunnel. The latter was served by the two above-ground tram lines 19 and 103, which connected the centre and the west of Brussels. On 2 October 1988, the second level under the existing metro station was opened to extend the tunnel from Rogier and to put metro line 2 into service. At the same time, Yser/IJzer and Ribaucourt metro stations were opened, while the other stations of line 2 were converted from premetro to metro. The two continuous above-ground tram lines 19 and 103 that connected the city centre to the west were linked together in a new tram line 19, which still serves Simonis premetro station today. Jason Lagos (talk) 14:48, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Whenever you get the time, if you could rewrite part of the article to make this make more sense, that would be great. I'm still not understanding what you're saying. Did the "short pre-metro tunnel in between 1986 and 1988 include stations Yser and Ribacourt? Criticalthinker (talk) 15:48, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

OK - I will also try to do that. Regarding your question, if you are referring to the current premetro (underground) stations Yser and Ribaucourt, then no, since both stations were still under construction in 1986 and were only opened in 1988. Whether or not there was an above-ground stop there between 1986 and 1988, that I do not know for certain. Jason Lagos (talk) 16:08, 21 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, I misunderstood something. I took "short tunnel" as meaning a premetro tunnel between Rogier and Elisabeth/Simonis, instead of the short tunnel that loops to pass Elisabeth/Simonis. It appears that Yser and Ribaucourt were never premetro stations; they opened as full metro-ready stations in 1988. This "short tunnel" was never intended - nor does it currently - directly connect with either of the metro lines at Simonis or Elisabeth. Criticalthinker (talk) 02:38, 24 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]