# Talk:Causal loop diagram

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## Software for causal loop diagrams

I visited this page to both learn about casual loop diagrams, and an interest in creating them, as surely many others do. The former is addressed, but what about the latter? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.237.129.161 (talk) 05:42, 17 December 2011 (UTC)

## Looks plagiarised

Looks plagiarised from here: [1] 125.236.197.192 02:47, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, I can only speak for what I've contributed to this page and what I've added is rather trivial and fundamental and something that anyone using CLDs could tell you even when they're asleep. The rest of the text looks like a typical CLD introduction to me and I have seen many similar texts (and I've probably said very similar things quite a few times). For the record, it would be nice if you could specify a more precise link, just to see how similar the texts are. If it's not a word-for-word transcription I would give it the benefit of the doubt. What this article desparately needs (IMHO), however, is proper references to the Systems Thinking community, to the archetypes and all that stuff, perhaps mentioning books like "The Fifth Discipline" while doing so (which is/was a very nice book, but I think it lacks in methodology when it comes to CLDs) Saittam 23:05 Nov 14 2007 (CET) —Preceding comment was added at 22:06, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

## I'm confused

I'm confused by this: >> Negative causal links are links in which the nodes change in opposite directions (an increase causes a decrease in another node, or a decrease causes an increase in another node). In combo with this image: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Adoption_CLD.gif Isn't the negative aspect of it really a derivative of some sort? (As the adoption rate goes up, the store of potential adopters goes down. But as the adoption rate goes down... the store of potential adopters can't *decrease* -- it's just the derivative that decreases. You don't add people back into the potential adopter pile as the rate of new adoptions goes down.) Elatb (talk) 21:24, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

## Confusing animation of bank account

The illustration of the bank account is totally wrong. It depicts a reinforcing loop and shows a graph that first increases and then decreases. But a reinforcing loop means that you have a system that is either growing at an accelarating rate or decreasing at an accelerating rate. One example of such a system is dx/dt=x (Saittam (talk) 20:31, 17 March 2010 (UTC))

Thank for your contribution, I wanted to show in this illustration both a growing and a decreasing system, I admit that the explanations were inadequate. I've updated illustration.Patrhoue 09:28, 18 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrhoue (talkcontribs)

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