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Many people believe Central America is not part of North America

If you see the Spanish Wikipedia article on Central America and North America you will see that they are understood as separate entities. People in Central America do not believe to be part of North America. This is the way it is taught in schools and common knowledge. Anyone reading this article from Guatemala to Panama would clearly know that it is incorrect or at least is ignoring a source of confusion and difference in understanding of the concept in various regions. I have seen people in the USA refer to countries in Central America as part of South America mainly because they are unaware of the existence of Central America but they would also agree that it is not part of North America. Finally the North American Free Trade Agreement includes only Canada, USA and Mexico. There is a separate Central America Free Trade Agreement with the USA. Acuna007 (talk) 08:59, 5 February 2012 (UTC)

Saying a country is not in NAFTA therefore isn't in North America is nonsensical. Is Switzerland part of Europe? Just because it's part of EFTA and not the EU doesn't change which continant it's onDja1979 (talk) 22:42, 20 October 2012 (UTC).

Costa Rica with more biodiversity? Makes no sense.

How can Costa RIca have more biodiveristy than NIcaragua? Nicaragua has the largest Nature Reserve in central america? Nicaragua owns THe San Juan River. prefix:Talk:Central America/ 20:38, 3 November 2011 (UTC)20:38, 3 November 2011 (UTC)20:38, 3 November 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.233.36.74 (talk)


Deal with it. Costa Rica do have more biodiversity than Nicaragua, Nicaragua may have more territory, but Costa Rica has more PROTECTED territory, that's the difference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.28.119.224 (talk) 18:41, 20 February 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Sinebot. The source cited is a presentation! Stating the discovered and known percentage of biodiversity is something, but making a statement as such and comparing it with the rest is not only scientifically wrong and misleading, but pretentious. Costa Rica is known for their approach to environment and the many studies of their biodiversity. Studies as complete as those lack in other Central American countries due to poor government administration and to a less aggressive tourism market. Or has all the research in all Central American finished and documented? - Cristi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.19.146.36 (talk) 16:20, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

Spanish Language Within the Article?

The first image in the "Geography" section is "Centroamerica politico.png", which shows the countries and their capitals. It's a fine image but appears to be the only one on the page referring to Belize by its Spanish spelling, "Belice", and, for the same reason, using "Ciudad" rather than "city" for the two capitals using that word. I don't know whether there's an SOP for when it's appropriate to use different languages in an article. There may also be value in noting, as nothing else on the page does, that Belice is Belize and vice versa. Nor can I imagine anyone being particularly confused. But, since I noticed it, I mention it in case anyone else should have strong feelings about how or whether to address the matter. ETA: Indeed, I find that even the en.wikipedia page on Belize doesn't mention that it's spelled Belice in Spanish. (The English article on the Sicilian river Belice does mention this fact.) Czrisher (talk) 16:38, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

Central America composition

  1. Central American Bank of Integration Economic (BCIE) includes only Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua and Costa Rica [1]. Panamá and Dominican Rep. are nonefounding regional partners and Belize is beneficiary, but not included.
  2. In the wikipedia page of the Central American Parliament Belize is not included
  3. Sica does include Belize and Dominican Republic as forming part of Central America for integration ([2])
  4. SIECA, the Secretariat of Economic Integration includes only Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras and Nicaragua as the countries of Central America [3].

In Central America, many people consider it to be a separate continent, not in North America but also not South America. Belize is often not considered to be a part of Central America and is more grouped with the Caribbean, especially being in CARICOM. Panama often is not included as a part of Central America because of its closer history to South America and especially Colombia. Taxicats (talk) 22:43, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

Central America vs. Mesoamerica vs. Middle America (region) vs. Mesoamerican region

Thoughts?--Coin945 (talk) 12:58, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

@Coin945: What's that mean?Amanda Smalls 19:32, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
All of those things seem to be similar, but different. The should definitly be included in the article, possibly in the "Usage" section, or a "Definition" section for clarity and context. --NickPenguin(contribs) 19:46, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Can we merge them?Amanda Smalls 19:49, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
See also Americas (terminology). Not sure if we can merge them. Middle America is more comprehensive, Mesoamerica is a historical definition and Mesoamerican region is the OECD definition of an economic region (at least the latter should be included in the article, maybe even merged).--Melody Lavender (talk) 19:29, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
I really feel like those are all different things. The question we should always ask ourselves when considering a merge is, "are these things independently notable from one another?". Central America seems like it refers more to a specific group of states, where as Mesoamerica is more of a historical cultural grouping. Middle America is an area larger than Central America, and the Mesoamerican region refers to an economic entity. --NickPenguin(contribs) 15:56, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Is that a gut feeling, or is that really how the sources split up the definitions of these terms? I havent done enoguh research to know the answer, but here's the googlebooks searches for the terms to help you out. :) Mesoamerica central America, Middle America, mesoamerican region.--Coin945 (talk) 16:21, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
Also see the bottom of page 37 in this text here. It refers to Middle America, Central America, and Mesoamerica within the one paragraph so should give up some clues to how those 3 articles should be structured. I just figured we should have this discussion now to avoid any duplication or neglected areas.--Coin945 (talk) 16:21, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Sources

I am collecting a list of sources I have come accross for various subsections. --NickPenguin(contribs) 15:49, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Ethnic groups

I fixed the data for Belize in the Ethnic groups table, but much of the rest of the data is completely wrong. MoreTomorrow (talk) 06:44, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

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Why does the article not mention the United Nations designation of Mexico as part of Central America?

The United Nations on this website: http://unstats.un.org/unsd/methods/m49/m49regin.htm, designate Mexico as belonging to Central America. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:6:5200:3B3:E43A:CFB1:9386:208B (talk) 17:10, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I followed that ref, and found no mention of Central America there. Guarapiranga (talk) 00:34, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
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