Talk:Challenger 1

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History[edit]

Don't know if this should be mentioned:

although true about the CAT competition, it transpired that the tank in question had, had faulty wipers on the sights coupled with mud splattered on the periscopes and as an affect caused severe loss of target aquisition/visibility SOURCE:Tank crew interview on TV —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.229.128.206 (talkcontribs) on 2005-07-09 at 11:48hrs .

-- 80.229.128.206 2005-07-09T11:48:08 (edit)

Not quite true about the CAT competition. The Challenger only hit 17, 18 and 19 out of 24 targets. The platoon that shot a re-run hit the most with 22. Only the one American and one German platoon hit all targets presented.Mihalko (talk) 22:12, 20 March 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mihalko (talkcontribs) 22:03, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Deliveries:

1983---243 Challenger 1

1984---64 Challenger 1

1985---18 Challenger 1

1987---76 Challenger 1

1988---17 DTT

The Challenger fleet:

253 Challenger 1 Mark 2 of which 7 are command, 34 control and 212 gun tanks

156 Challenger 1 Mark 3 of which 4 are command, 22 control and 130 gun tanks

Poorly written article[edit]

This is a very poorly written article, it (the article) pales in comaprison to the M1 article. Surely someone who knows something about this subject can write more about it. How many challenger 1's were bought? who(individuals) designed it? Add a photo maybe, do something! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.237.98.55 (talkcontribs) on 2005-10-14 at 18:27hrs .

Trivia[edit]

The Challenger 1 tank makes an appearance on one of the episodes of the British TV comedy show "Mr. Bean" in which Mr. Bean (interpreted by Rowan Atkinson) visits a military fair. He leaves his car in the place of an identical car which is to be used in a demonstration which consists on the tank rolling over the vehicle. I may be wrong in thinking this, but I seem to remember it was actually a Chieftain, as the turret was rounded, not angular like the Challenger.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.26.180.56 (talkcontribs) on 2006-08-20 at 01:48hrs .

It was a Chieftain indeed.--MWAK 16:15, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Tank vs Tank Kill Record[edit]

As I understand it, the actual range of the record kill was 5142 meters,(5.1km). However, I can't find a suitable online source for reference purposes. JayFrancis 14:05, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

As no reference has yet been added, I've added a {{fact}} template to the end of that claim, in the hope that eventually someone does find a suitable reference--Topperfalkon (talk) 08:29, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Still in UK service?[edit]

The article says the Challenger 1 was "superseded", whatever that means, and lists how many were issued, but it is unclear whether it is still in UK service. Michael Z. 2007-10-03 22:29 Z

Bad sights, build a new tank[edit]

It scored more direct hits than its competitors, but the poor fire control system and sights caused it to be the slowest firer, and it was placed last in the league tables. As a result the requirement for a new MBT was issued.

An entire tank design is commissioned because of one bad competition? Sounds dubious.

I'm removing the connection between two events here. Please cite a source before replacing this. Michael Z. 2007-10-03 22:32 Z

Jordanian Upgrades[edit]

From the intro:

The variants for the Jordanian military are upgraded to Challenger 2 standards and are undergoing upgrades using an unmanned turret called the Falcon Turret.

No references are cited for this, nor is it mentioned again in the article... is it even true? -Togamoos (talk) 13:50, 15 July 2008 (UTC) yes it is true. there is a whole buzz about it.. the unmanned turret is called the falcon turret and is a low selhuet turret with a 120 smooth bore gun. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.144.193 (talk) 17:54, 6 December 2008 (UTC)