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I'll be making the justification again for notability and so forth. Taggers, admins, please allow a little time for me to do so. The notability is in part that this is the only standardized PPC computer desktop end-user product, that, like in terms of eeePC and OLPC notability, it unusually competes on a very low price strategy, etc. Also it's use of Firefox as the UI is notable. More. DanielM (talk) 17:22, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While I have agreed to "stay out" of this article, I think it's pretty obvious that the price should be removed. Tan ǀ 39 17:44, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OLPC and eeePC articles both discuss pricing. The pricing here is identified neutrally and is part of the subject's notability. See also Tata Nano. DanielM (talk) 17:56, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, run the price and it will get the article killed. Leave it out, please. Ecoleetage (talk) 17:58, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I see no reason for leaving the price out? Censorship??? Please no.--Kozuch (talk) 23:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'll leave it out pending consensus on whether it should be in there, but we need to note the price as part of the notability, if there is a notability challenge. DanielM (talk) 18:10, 28 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

2013 cherrypal website down

As of June 2013, the website http://www.cherrypal.com/ is down. THe article should be updated. It seems like this (vaporware, scamming or real?) company is no more. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.33.135.232 (talk) 15:44, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

$250

It is ridiculous to leave out the most notable factoid. -69.87.199.98 (talk) 23:14, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vaporware

Its hard to believe that no-one has added the reasonable conclusion that this product is vaporware and will never surface in real life. Consider this:

1) The product is only ever shown as a rendering - no real life photographs, which is surprising if the product supposedly left the factory more than a month ago.

2) There has been no realiable, independent, and verifiable reports of units being shipped to end users. This is after a month of supposed availability of a pretty good product (that is, if it existed)?

3) Third, the webpage is designed as if a sixth-grade kid had done it is a school project. It is simply too amateruish for a company which supposedly has the vision and capital to: design a complex electronics product from scratch, secure funding for starting a production run, actually establishing a production, found a distributor, and managed to ship the product to customers.

4) The company started with Paypal for order payments but pulled it for unspecified "bad experiences"... sorry this is way out there. If you want to launch a halfway revolutionary product, you are an amateur if you don't have a decent order tracking and payment system in place on the launch date.

As many bad experiences as I've heard about other people and businesses having with PayPal, this is actually one of the least suspicious parts of the story to me. Granted, it's a year later now, but Cherrypal now takes credit cards and Western Union. —Robotech_Master (talk) 06:23, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I could list a few more points of mistrust, but i'll stop for now and end in sayign that nothing at all is trustworthy about the company, it's main man and the product. If i'm mistaken, I'd love to be shown to be so (but please, let see some hard proof that this thing actuially exists, thanks!). - Peter Bjørn Perlsø (talk) 02:21, 15 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Did you read the references from Green Tech Girl and Solmn blogs? There are still question marks about mass production etc. but those didn't seem to be fakery to me. Also, I think it does mention it may be vaporware at the end of the article currently. DanielM (talk) 20:34, 15 December 2008 (UTC) PS: There are real life photos in one or more of the references.[reply]

I don't think its vaporware at all, there are real pictures, and reports of end users now. There are many other small starter companies who have crappy web-pages, and in my opinion a real swindler would first make sure the website would look polished. Take a look at fan sites like this [1] and here: [2]. I think in a couple of days many more people will report on the arrival of their cherrypal, and we can lay the vaporware theory to rest. Mahjongg (talk) 01:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I also found a YouTube Video, here: [3] Funny video by the way, I wonder why she thinks the connectors are "on the front of the device", to me they are on the back, what makes the back the back? Or maybe then the cherry picture is "upside down" big deal... I would mount the device on the back of a flatscreen anyway? out of sight. Not packing a starter sheet to me means that cherrypal is rushing these things out the door as soon as possible, not waiting for the printer to deliver the starter sheets. I doubt there will be much on the sheet anyway, just instructions to hook the thing up, turn it on and log in. I think we can scrap the "vaporware theory". I am curious for the first real user reports, and how much this thing really is a "cloud computer". Mahjongg (talk) 01:29, 16 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cherrypals are turning up at users doorsteps left right and center, just google for cherrypal in the last 24 hours and you get over a thousand hits. I'm going to remove the vaporware claim. Mahjongg (talk) 21:21, 18 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Interestingly, the vaporware claims have been popping up again with regard to the Cherrypal Africa. People are asking in twitters and blog comments whether anyone has actually seen one in real life. I wonder if it's something about the cheapness of the systems that makes people more suspicious? At any rate, I will be receiving test units of the Africa and Bing to review for TeleRead.org within a week or so. —Robotech_Master (talk) 06:23, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Robotech Master, ah, cool. I read those articles at TeleRead.org and liked them. A lot of the Cherrypal news and blog coverage is derivative and superficial, or worse based on innuendo claiming without evidence that it's all a scam and vapor and so forth. I agree that the low price of the Africa may make people skeptical. I think the article should be restrained and cautious in reporting about the Cherrypal Africa until there are more end-user reports. DanielM (talk) 15:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

cherrypal Africa

According to their website you can now buy the Cherrypal for $99. The operating system is Windows CE.

"The 7" Cherrypal was designed with developing countries in mind. The Africa is powered with an 400 MHz processor, 256 MB DDR / 2 GB NAND-flash and runs Linux (GMo) or Windows CE. Here are some more basics: Screen: 7 inch high-resolution TFT .(800 x 480 pixels) LAN:10/100M Ethernet Access WIFI: IEEE 802.11 b/g Ethernet RJ-45 Keyboard: QWERTY 86 keys Mouse&Touch pad:build-in touch panel, set two shortcut key,and support usb port mouse USB Port: USB 2.0 x 1 (aid external memory) USB 1.1 x 2 (aid keyboard & mouse only) External Memory : SD card , U-Disk , USB-HDD Card port: SD / MMC card slot (8GB) Battery: 7.4 V 1800Mha built in Lithium battery 1800MAH Last time:4 HRS Sound effect:build-in realtek sound effect chipset, Built in 2 x 0.5W Built in speaker 1 x microphone Weight:1.2kg Size: 213.5 x 141.8 x 30.8 mm This product was added to our catalog on Friday 11 December, 2009." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.60.177 (talk) 02:08, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Moved content to end of talk as usual, and added header. You are talking about the "cherrypal Africa", made by the same company, but has nothing to do with the original cherrypal, which was released some time ago, and runs ubuntu. The cherrypal africa is a mini laptop for third world countries (as the name implies). 195.86.30.10 (talk) 13:03, 17 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the Africa perhaps will not "run Windows CE", even when the official website says so! According to this site [4] there is a choice between Linux and windows CE possible , and insiders say " When we promise that you get Windows CE it doesn’t mean that you get one either. Most likely you get much more." [5]. Because the Africa uses a chinese Ingenic processor (like the Dingoo) it means it cannot be another kind of Windows than Windows CE, so I wouldn't be surprised when "much more" is a version of Linux. Mahjongg (talk) 00:16, 22 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

At the risk of running afoul of the "talk page is not for discussion of the topic" rule, "much more" can be Windows XP. The Africa's processor can be X86, ARM, or MIPS-based depending on what kind of computer systems and/or parts Cherrypal is branding as Africas that day. You get whatever version of Windows runs on that architecture. See this article for details. —Robotech_Master (talk) 06:18, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd like to note, by the way, that the name of the page is just "Cherrypal". Not "Cherrypal (computer)". (This is, of course, because until relatively recently they only made one model of computer.) The natural assumption to make is that it refers to the company Cherrypal, and it would be a natural place to list all of their products. If you're going to insist on separate pages for each product, perhaps a disambiguation page would be in order? —Robotech_Master (talk) 06:25, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rename/Redirect for StudlyCaps

Per chairman Max Seybold, and also per the way the name is listed on the corporate website, the name of the company and its computer is "Cherrypal," not "CherryPal".

I've fixed the usage in the body of the article, but it really needs to be renamed to fix the capitalization. How can that be done? —Robotech_Master (talk) 06:15, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Responding to both this and your comment immediately above, I don't know exactly how to rename the article to make it "Cherrypal" and not "CherryPal." There's probably a skilled way to do it, but the primitive way may be to start a new article "Cherrypal," copy-paste the contents of this article to it, and replace this article with a redirect: "#REDIRECT <Cherrypal in double brackets>." Wikipedia has a contingent of zealous and hyperactive new article deleters, so if you do it, explain in the new article's comments what you're doing. Also, this article was started when "Cherrypal" referred more to the original net-top, the C114. AFAIK that's the only standardized unique offering thus far, I mean it has the cherry printed on it. The Bing doesn't have that cherry AFAIK, nor does the Africa AFAIK. So are those distinctive products unto themselves? I think not, certainly the Africa is not. The Africa is a grab-bag product of whatever Seybold and co. ship out that day that meets the minimum specs. Lastly I definitely don't think these different offerings and the company itself need to be broken into separate articles. They're not notable enough. We can cover them in different sections here. I am in favor for now of having this article refer principally to the C114/C120, and discussing the company and other models in subsections, as we do now. DanielM (talk) 15:44, 27 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

$99 Asia, not Africa

The $99 version is the 7" screen Asia, running Google Android. There's a 10.1" Asia for $148 with Android. The 7" Africa is listed at $118 and 13.3" Bing for $389. The C120 desktop is listed at $249. The old $99 Africa with Linux is no longer available. This article needs a lot of updating. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bizzybody (talk • contribs) 08:37, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]