Talk:Cushan-rishathaim

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Chushan Rishathaim means "Double wicked Cushan" or, as I like to put it, "Big, Bad Cushan." Kind of sounds like a bit of a bully...

Hiding the ethnicity of Chushan (Cush) Rishataim[edit]

The translations from Smith's (1977) and Holman's (1991) clearly state that this man, the first oppressors of the Biblical Israelites, was an Ethiopian (Smith's) whose proper name is Cush(Holman). The page should reflect that it is being translated “Cushite (Ethiopian) of double wickedness”

There has been oppression of actual historical evidence for years in academia, it is time for wikipedia to at least get it right as millions of people rely on this site for information. For the record, y'alls page on the Moors is completely lacking and bias and we have had experiences that if you try to edit in proper information pertaining to the Moors whom are given the derogatory misnomer "black people", then your edits will be deleted under some dubious rules. Time to get it right. Peace. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheik Way-El (talk • contribs) 20:59, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I find the argument that his name should be translated that way dubious and unconvincing, but most importantly, it seems like novel WP:OR if no cite has ever suggested this translation. BTW If you want to address whoever wrote the Moors article, you may find it more helpful to comment on Talk:Moors, since they are more likely to watch that page than this one! Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 21:20, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sheik Way-El -- Arameans in Mesopotamia before 1000 B.C. sounds like a very improbable context in which to find blacks. In any case, pre-Hellenistic Judeans were only rather vaguely aware of the existence of blacks (as people mainly inhabiting remote regions at the edge of the world), and don't seem to have had any particular emotions about them. The word "Cushan" otherwise only appears in Habbakuk 3:7, where there's no discernible connection with blacks... AnonMoos (talk) 22:12, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]