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Folk Song Lyrics

Clayton based his poetic words on an English folk song already familiar to many of those on the trek through Iowa (source: Stegner, The Gathering of Zion). Someone skilled in the research of English ethnographic literature might be able to dredge up one or more publishable versions of the popular lyrics. Probably it was a pub song. Genehisthome (talk) 18:52, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

"Do this and joy your hearts will swell" is the same melody as "Good people all this Christmastime" from The Wexford Carol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by T.Y. Faltermeyer (talk • contribs) 22:35, 30 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]

New Century Hymnal - 1995 Edition

I have been attempting to find the hymn in the New Century Hymnal of the United Church of Christ, I cannot find a reference to the lyricists or hymns. I do not think that the citation is correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.93.11.178 (talk) 15:40, 18 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I believe you're on to something. The New Century Hymnal (1995) entry at Hymnary.org does not list a hymn titled "Come, Come, Ye Saints", nor the alternate title "All is Well". There is hymn 311 "Renew Your Church, Its Ministries Restore" with the tune name of ALL IS WELL, which is the same tune, but completely unrelated wording.

Per the "Come, Come, Ye Saints" entry at Hymnary.org, the song (not just tune) appears in the following hymnals outside of the Latter Day Saint movement:

Frey, Hugo, ed. (1946), Universal Hymns, New York: Robbins Music Corp, OCLC 20832880
Christian Praise, Nashville, Tennessee: Broadman Press (Southern Baptist Convention), 1964, OCLC 33902607 and OCLC 6639897
Barrows, Cliff; Hustad, Donald, eds. (1967), Crusader Hymns and Hymn Stories, Hymn studies and personal stories by Billy Graham and the Crusade Musicians, Minneapolis: Billy Graham Evangelistic Association, OCLC 2036816
Barrows, Cliff, ed. (1967), Crusade Hymn Stories, Chicago: Hope Publishing Company, OCLC 434674
The Mennonite Hymnal, Scottdale, Pennsylvania; Newton, Kansas: Herald Press; Faith and Life Press, 1969, OCLC 11744878
Overholt, John J., ed. (1972), The Christian Hymnary: Books 1-4, Uniontown, Ohio: Christian Hymnary Publishers, OCLC 2097097 and OCLC 11672488
Hustad, Don, ed. (1974), Hymns for the Living Church, Carol Stream, Illinois: Hope Publishing Company, OCLC 464122503 {{citation}}: External link in |publisher= (help)
Reynolds, William Jensen, ed. (1975), Baptist Hymnal, Nashville, Tennessee: Convention Press, Southern Baptist Convention, OCLC 77860062
Hymns of the Christian life: a book of worship in song emphasizing evangelism, missions, and the deeper life (Rev. and enlarg. ed.), Harrisburg, Pennsylvania: Christian Publications, 1978, OCLC 222062230
Hustad, Don, ed. (1990), The Worshiping Church: a Hymnal, Carol Stream, Illinois: Hope Publishing Company, ISBN 0916642437, OCLC 22695656

"Come, Come, Ye Saints" also appeared in the following RLDS hymnals, which I believe was reworded to remove all references to the LDS exodus to the western US:

The Saints' Harp. Lamoni, Iowa: Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. 1870.
The Saints' Hymnal. Lamoni, Iowa: Herald House. 1895. OCLC 4241432.

To help with your research, please note that Christiansen full name is "Avis Marguerite Burgeson Christiansen" (October 11, 1895 — January 14, 1985), and is variously credited as "Avis Christiansen", "Avis Burgeson Christiansen", "A. B. Christiansen", "Avis B. Christiansen", and "Avis M. B. Christiansen", in addition to her full name. She was married to E. O. Christiansen, who was associated with the Moody Bible Institute. More information about her can be found at:

"People: C", The Cyber Hymnal, HymnTime.com {{citation}}: |contribution= ignored (help)
"Person", Hymnary.org, Christian Classics Ethereal Library, Calvin College {{citation}}: |contribution= ignored (help)
Reynolds, William Jensen (1964), Hymns of Our Faith: a handbook for the Baptist hymnal, Nashville, Tennessee: Broadman Press, p. 267, OCLC 740725
Hustad, Donald Paul; Shorney, George H., Jr. (1978), Dictionary-Handbook to Hymns for the Living Church, Carol Stream, Illinois: Hope Publishing Company, pp. 220–221, ISBN 0916642097, OCLC 4170167{{citation}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: authors list (link)
Osbeck, Kenneth W. (1985), "Blessed Redeemer", 101 More Hymn Stories, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Kregel Publications, p. 52, ISBN 0825434203, OCLC 11533394
Osbeck, Kenneth W. (2000), "Blessed Redeemer", Hallelujah, what a Savior!: 25 hymn stories celebrating Christ Our Redeemer, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Kregel Publications, pp. 21–22, ISBN 0825434327, OCLC 44433769

It would appear that Christiansen's 1966 re-wording was used for all of the versions published by Hope Publishing, and probably everything published by SBC (in the list above) after 1966. ^—^Asterisk*^Splat^→ 21:49, 20 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]