Talk:Commercial Lunar Payload Services

Noosphere Ventures

Noosphere Ventures does not have a Wikipedia page but Noosphere does. Either the Noosphere page needs renaming or the edit to CLPS needs reverting. To resolve external evidence needed. Andrew Swallow (talk) 03:02, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

That source, Federal Business Opportunities, seems like a search database and one needs to enter a search parameter. I would delete the section "Interested parties", since I bet a lot of people are interested in $2 Billion. We better only report who finally signed the contracts. Cheers, Rowan Forest (talk) 05:53, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Federal Business Opportunities is the official list of all new US Government contracts. The search parameter takes you to the entry for CLPS. There are many supporting documents. Hopefully any useful information will end up in the contracts so the contracts can be linked to. Andrew Swallow (talk) 19:23, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

COTS or resupply?

I think this article should link to resupply rather than COTS because, as far as I know, CLPS does not pay for the development of landers. It does however pay for missions. Lunar CATALYST was the development project. There is a second project for the development of larger landers. Andrew Swallow (talk) 19:32, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

I don't know how that works. Go for it! Thanks, Rowan Forest (talk) 20:14, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Nova-C lander

The contractors selected have strong partnerships and working agreements between themselves, as required by the nature of this program, and it is proposed that the lander designed by Intuitive Machines (Nova-C) will be the lander to be proposed for the first mission. Ahead of the bidding and contracts, the timeline is such that Intuitive Machines is already hoping for a June 2021 launch. I tried to word that lander's article to reflect that no transport contract has yet been signed; but if you can improve the text to that effect it would be great. Cheers, Rowan Forest (talk) 15:50, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Contract bidding starts next week, and apparently, SpaceX is butting in. Rowan Forest (talk) 23:08, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

Winner of first lander contracts

The winners of the first lander contracts will be announced "in a few days": [1]. That section is not outdated yet. Rowan Forest (talk) 17:57, 22 May 2019 (UTC)

What payload masses and costs

Can we add something about masses and costs ? eg what mass payload of the various landers? or what mass for the NASA payloads ? Did NASA give any target price per kg landed ? Do the NASA awards cover all costs ? who pays for the non NASA payloads ? - Rod57 (talk) 15:53, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

I find this intresting too and did a bit of research. Most on how much money NASA awarded. I couldn't find how munch money was awarded individual, but I found this statement of NASA "ESTIMATED VALUE: Min $25k Max $2.6B per each contract awarded. The maximum ordering value of the firm fixed price contracts and associated task orders is $2.6B, individually and cumulatively." Maybe we could ad it. 2A02:908:D77:9F60:28FA:73F4:258C:D392 (talk) 11:23, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

• I've seen reports of what NASA is paying for some CLPS missions, eg IIRC $118 M for IM-1, $110 M for Pergrine-1. (out of which the companies have to pay the launch costs.) The landing mission costs probably do NOT include the payload costs. - Rod57 (talk) 11:52, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

• Here's an article on CLPS costs - including a table of mission contract values. Payload Res, The ultra low cost economics of NASAs CLPS - Rod57 (talk) 21:17, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

References

Are these CLPS, or something else?

On 3 December 2020 NAS "selected" five companies to "collect lunar resources" .[2] the companies are: Lunar Outpost of Golden, Colorado; Masten Space Systems of Mojave, California; ispace Europe of Luxembourg; and ispace Japan of Tokyo. Is this part of the CLPS program? If so, we need to add it here. -Arch dude (talk) 17:21, 29 August 2021 (UTC)

Not sure where to put this

CADRE is missing from the IM-3 payload manifest. See here: https://science.nasa.gov/lunar-science/clps-deliveries/cp-11/

Lists of CLPS missions

Editors are encouraged to participate in the discussion at: Talk:List of Artemis missions#Lists of CLPS missions. (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 03:10, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

Table of missions - columns, suggestions

The table of missions, IMO, would be easier to read if the Awarded column was swapped with the Launch column. Then related details would be adjacent, and it reads better left to right chronologically.
Total mass of payloads could be in the notes column, or have its own new column. - Rod57 (talk) 11:47, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

CLPS-2 (IM-1) partial success

Given that IM-1 fell on its side (but had soft landed and was still able to carry out its scientific objectives) I think it would count as a partial success. 102.223.59.149 (talk) 10:39, 27 June 2024 (UTC)