Talk:Darius J. Pearce/Archives/2013

Changes 28th July

I have expanded the 'fake photo' event and also added in the party politics section and details on the battle to introduce party names to Jersey ballot papers which Mr. Pearce initiated through the PPC.

Also added in the complaint to the PCC and the results of the mediation.

I think it's fair to describe him as a Liberal-conservative since he has stated it in numerous letters to the JEP.

RichardColgate 08:06, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

May 2007 Coverage

Mr. Pearce in an open letter to Jersey indicated that he had identified eighteen innaccuracies and misleading statements in the JEP article of May 24th and that he had made a complaint to the Press Complaints Commission.

I have accounted for these by making the political philosophy section less definitive and adding in some of the ifs, buts and maybes that Mr. Pearce indicates should have been in the JEP.

Please do not revert as there is the potential for problems for wikipedia.

RichardColgate 17:28, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

As I too was on the circulation for Darius's letter I did not immediately realize that it is not in the public domain, which is a difficulty for independent Wikipedia editors. Although there is a verification problem, I certify that the letter does exist and has been widely privately distributed, beyond Darius's own clique. I therefore endorse Richard's warning

Daverotherham 14:56, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Independent Review - Recent Changes

I do not think that, unless permission has been granted, biographies of living people should mention family members unless they also have a high profile. That is private and personal information and could breach Data Protection guidelines.

There are some very odd places where "National Assembly" and the like has been use instead of States of Jersey; I have adjusted these.

There is no "politicial scale" in sociology/politics in the same way, as for instance, IQ, is recognised in psychology; I have removed this as it adds no real information. It also seems to judgemental and partial rather than factual.

Abuse of Trust legislation came about after a Scrutiny Panel had submissions regarding the law regarding sexual parity for hetersexual / gay people and was brought in by Wendy Kinnard as Minister for Home Affairs; anyone could make submissions on this, and many people did; it is misleading to suggest DP brought it about single handed.

I see that many citations have now been made, and I think the citations needed could well be withdrawn.

--TonyinJersey 07:23, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Names on Papers

Please add a fuller account of how Mr. Pearce's work led to the inclusion of party names on papers. The proposition by PPC was based on one by Deputy Geoff Southern of the Jersey Democratic Alliance, and if you cannot show Mr. Pearce's involvement this section should be deleted

Ref added, though still awaiting Press Complaints Commission publication of the results of the mediation process on their website, will ref asap. The article does not say he was responsible for the proposition, just for re-igniting the debate, no one person was solely responsible and I am sure that Geoff Southern also played a part though his amendments to the proposition were rejected if I recall correctly other than the one about publishing a list of members of each party. The Jersey Democratic Alliance did not get any coverage on this issue until after the proposition was lodged, DP did for a couple of weeks before hand, on the BBC especially, I would say both played a significant part. RichardColgate 11:16, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

References

Hi. I have just re-visited this page, and am concerned to note that all the Progress Jersey dot com links redirect to a holding page, thus rendering sources for much of the information contained in the article unproven. There needs to be a re-appraisal of all those statements and claims, and whether there are other current references that could be substituted. Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 21:54, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

It appears (despite no sources on the internet being available to back up the information I have received) that the subject of this article has suffered changed circumstances to a large degree, such that his notability may be called into question in the future. The informant also intimates that one or more of the subject's own website ventures, which also serve as major sources in the article, have been discontinued (Progress Jersey is now a domain parking page). I have tagged the article to raise my concerns, although I will not be offering it up as an AfD, due to a lack of proof of these concerns. Thanks. Ref ^(chew)(do) 20:43, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Subject is currently taking the Minister of Home Affairs to the Royal Court in Jersey, still very much in the news and politically active. Plus Jersey is amidst it's own scandal and Mr. Pearce is not involved. RichardColgate (talk) 06:31, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

10th September 2008: JEP reports Mr. Pearce's imprisonment. They do not consider him notable enough to feature the story on their ThisIsJersey.com internet digest, though. Now that he can clearly be written off as an up-and-coming politician, and as his modest level of past campaigning does not set him apart from countless other non-notables, I think this article should be reconsidered once again for an AfD for non-notability. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daverotherham (talk • contribs) 21:00, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Well it is too early to tell litigation may take many years to complete but there certainly is a school of thought that he is being persecuted by corrupt Jersey system for daring to stand up to them in the past. This is not a party political forum and if his stated aim per personal blog is successful and he suceeds in major legal reform will be one of most important figures in Jersey in recent years. JEP is totally partial as Dave has stated himself many times so let's not prejudice Court hearings for petty party politics eh Dave? At least he is fighting for Jersey people against the corruption.82.112.133.85 (talk) 02:07, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

Material removed

I have removed material from this article that does not comply with our policy on the biographies of living persons. Biographical material must always be referenced from reliable sources, especially negative material. Negative material that does not comply with that must be immediately removed. Note that the removal does not imply that the information is either true or false.

Please do not reinsert this material unless you can provide reliable citations, and can ensure it is written in a neutral tone. Please review the relevant policies before editing in this regard. Editors should note that failure to follow this policy may result in the removal of editing privileges.--Scott Mac (Doc) 21:45, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Review after 2011 elections?

I have just started reviewing the political pages in respect of Jersey and since it seems that Mr Pearce has dropped off the scene it may be worth reviewing this and other pages, I propose this be done in November 2011 after this year's elections

RichardColgate (talk) 23:51, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Deletion Debates

Article has been subject of a recent Afd and DelRev debate following on from an overturned prod and a contested speedy delete.

Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2007_July_3#.5B.5B:Darius_J_Pearce.5D.5D

Check my talk page for Jersey resident editors should you wish to re-nominate for Afd.

RichardColgate 20:38, 8 July 2007 (UTC)