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Season five[edit]

'The fifth season begins right where Season 4 ends with the portal for Lucifer opening. As Lucifer escapes, the brothers are teleported into an airplane by an unknown force (later revealed to be God).' Are you sure about that? I don't think that was ever confirmed....markr980@hotmail.com

It was; the angel Joshua confirmed it when Sam and Dean went to Heaven. God was the one who put them on the plane. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IncurablyAwesome (talkcontribs) 00:38, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Season four[edit]

The information there has very little to do with the character and it seems like it would be more appropriate in the supernatural series section under seasons. Does anyone else agree?Coho (talk) 19:54, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikiquote[edit]

Don't put the Wikiquote box in there. I put the link in there because the box screwed up the edits, and had them all bunched up.-16:33, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Clothes[edit]

Is it really neccessary to go into such detail about what Sam and Dean wear?

1) SIGN YOUR COMMENTS
2) Yes, as it is a full character rundown therefore maximum character detail is typically appropriate.
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Appearances Section`[edit]

The Impala seems irrelevant to this section. Is there even any need for a section named appearances? Perhaps rename the section "Notable Episodes about Dean" and just leave the list. "Below is a list of notable Dean episodes" is unnecessary because it is obvious; the list is titled "Notable Episodes about Dean". "However, most episodes are either focused on Sam or Dean... or sometimes both." the break in this sentence is very unencyclopedic. I'm going to make some changes and lets see what we think. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Storer90 (talkcontribs) 07:40, 2 April 2007 (UTC).

I think you did a good job on the page but maybe you should have added more information about Dean emotionally like where/who the real Dean is!


Dean's relationship to the Impala is actually a pretty major character point with Dean- it's a link to his father, and, particularly after he rebuilt it, he's incredibly protective of it- his position as the major driver of the car cements his position as "big brother" and, to some extent the "leader" of him and Sam- this divide, with John as Captain and Dean as Sargeant, becomes less noticeable as the series continues, as evidenced by Sam's increased driving of the car. It might sound silly and like I'm reading into it, but there's a reason the Impala is often seen as the third main character! With how much time the brothers spend in it and how much unspoken emotion is resolved through interacting with the car, interms of Dean, especially, who hates talking about his feelings, it's vastly relevant.Himynameishelen (talk) 02:11, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Birthday[edit]

Do we know who figured out Dean's birthday? Was that stated in an episode? I'd love to know which episode or where that date was derived. Kudos to whomever figured this out! (: DeWinter79 19:39, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

yeah we really do, and please try to take a look again on the episode 1.15 the benders. may you still remember, Dean stole an ID from the officer Washington, and use that ID to cheat the female cop Katherine to check on whether Sam is on missing list or not. the female cop searched for the name Winchester and thus found both sam and dean on the list, and the list shown basic information about them such as weight and height and also the DOB clearly. meaningless 18:36, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Dean, 24th of January & Sam, 2nd of May. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.140.211.229 (talk) 22:50, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

Personality[edit]

Someone needs to do a personality section. I've heard a lot about Dean's self-loathing issues, his dedicance to his father and his and Dean's unhealthy dependance on each other. It's odd that this article explains his history, but not his personality and relations to his family. Sam and John need sections on their personalities too.--24.255.171.220 (talk) 15:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

"Notable episodes about Dean" section[edit]

I'm not really sure what constitutes a "notable episode about Dean", but in any event the section seems to violate the no original research policy. Unless you can cite a reliable source that lists which episodes are notable Dean episodes, the section doesn't belong here. Rreagan007 (talk) 17:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

If I'm correct, an episode itself can be used as a source or reference. These episodes show important info about the character and plot developement for the show. Many are referenced in the text of the article themselves. Therefore how can they be considered original research?Largoss (talk) 18:43, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, episodes can be used as references, but deciding if an episode is more notable for one character than another would be original research without a reliable source. BOVINEBOY2008 18:50, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Exactly. The episodes themselves don't classify themselves as being somehow a Dean-centric storyline. As a hypothetical example, if at the beginning of the episode at the bottom of the screen there flashed the text "this is a notable Dean episode" then that could be cited. But as far as I am aware, there is nothing in the episodes themselves that could be cited in this way. Your interpretation of the episode plot being notable about Dean in some way is the original research. Rreagan007 (talk) 18:56, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Then by that interpretation why isnt everything about Dean put on here like, the names of every girl hes slept with who is mentioned once and never seen again or every girl he flirts with, what time he woke up in different episodes, a detailed list of what he at everytime he is shown eating/ Stuff like that would be waistful hence why they are not added, and only important, impactful stuff. Where do the important facts come from interviews and facts said by the creator, but also the episodes themselves. Episodes themselves that reveal that would be notable and if they are not how come they are important enough to be listed in the article itself? Its not original research. However, would it be more condusive to everyone if these episodes were added to the reference section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Largoss (talkcontribs) 19:47, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what your getting at. You may run into another problem with POV; deciding for yourself that one episode is more important to Dean than others can boil down to your opinion. BOVINEBOY2008 19:59, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
And besides that, the section isn't really helpful to the reader and doesn't really belong in a quality wikipedia article. It would never pass a good article nomination with that kind of section in it. Rreagan007 (talk) 20:12, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

Music[edit]

What are the names of the 5 albums Dean listens to over and over?

Yellow Fever (2008) Dean: "I mean I drive too fast and I listen to the same five albums over and over and over again! And I... I... I sing along." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Enivegnar (talkcontribs) 04:47, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

can someone protect this page[edit]

people or persons keep vandalising this page, the Same Winchest page and the Castiel page implying one or all are in a relationship such duragotory non sense or out right swearing. Can someone please protect this and the other pages.

Can we put in surrogate family once and for all? Bobby Singer, surrogate father, and Castiel, guardian angel (MIA)? Both have been stated to be the closest thing Dean has to family. Shippers need to cool their jets, but so do anti-shippers. They're both part of the Winchester extended family - remember "family don't end with blood"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jm524 (talkcontribs) 22:21, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

The article (and the others) has been semi-protected, so I believe the problem should be fixed. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:33, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Now someone is vandlising the characters of supernatural. I have no doubt they will then move on to the Supernatural page. Can someone please protect them? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Odoital25 (talkcontribs) 02:47, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

While Castiel was a friend of Dean's, there is absolutely no evidence in canon to support the notion that they were ever lovers. Wikipedia needs to be factual, not cater to the fantasies of slash fiction fans. Perhaps the Destiel slash fic needs to be discussed over on the fan fiction page, if there is one. --Felinefury (talk) 21:43, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Of English descent?[edit]

Where is it established that he is of English descent? If a source can't be provided I ask that the category be removed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesouthernhistorian45 (talkcontribs) 19:00, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Edit request on 3 December 2011[edit]

Bobby Singer (Adoptive Father, Deceased)

Laurenep18 (talk) 06:20, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. →Στc. 07:31, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Spoilers for "The Slice Girls"[edit]

In the last episode, Dean fathers an Amazon named Emma. Should that be added into his section on family or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.202.251.28 (talk) 20:54, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

Update[edit]

I've noticed that neither the Dean Winchester or Sam Winchester articles are finished; Sam's only has information up to the conclusion of Season 6, while Dean's is only written about halfway through. If no one else is willing to fix that, I might step up to the plate, but I'd prefer someone with more experience using Wikipedia to do it instead. Sorry for being a bother. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.202.251.28 (talk) 02:10, 19 February 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 16 March 2012[edit]

Dean Winchester also has a son; his daughter was listed but, not his son. His son's name is Ben. He and his mother don't currently remember Dean but, that's only because Dean had castiel erase all thier memories of him so they weren't in danger any longer.

Ben wasn't his. Lisa stated she ran a DNA test on him. He wasn't Dean's.

I'm pretty sure he is Dean's; I'll check around. I'm pretty sure that Lisa had lied at the end of "The Kids are Alright" when she said Ben wasn't Dean's (realizing that Dean probably wouldn't stick around). And why would Dean stick around for a year at the end of season 6 if Ben wasn't his? I'll check and get back to you.--Supernaturalfringe (talk) 21:42, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

No, he stuck around because he loved her and the kid. She says at the end of the episode she is first introduced that he wasn't heres but he did save him. Then in season six episode two or three she says that she wanted someone who could be like a father to him. Hes notOdoital25 (talk) 04:20, 17 March 2012 (UTC). Supernaturalfringe (talk) 19:07, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Bility (talk) 20:55, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Adam Milligan status[edit]

There seems to be some confusion over whether or not Adam Milligan is deceased. This confusion stems from the show often bringing characters back to life after having been dead and in hell (or heaven). Adam is currently in hell and therefore is deceased. Perhaps he will be brought back to life later in the show, or perhaps not, but we can't assume he will be brought back to life. He is currently in hell and therefore deceased. Rreagan007 (talk) 16:06, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

There is no confusion. He was alive and taken to hell. He was not killed. Therefore, alive. Your adding OR.

Also, never established the only way to get to heaven or hell is if your dead. That's an OR argument. Further, if we use this argument then: angels can only posses a body that has given consent. Unlike demons can't possess a dead body. Angels are shown to be able to be in heaven. It is established in season four Angels layed seige to hell. Those they can go to either one. Adam was the vessel of Michael, meaning he was alive. Those he can go to heaven or hell and not be dead. However, this is a fan argument based on your interpriation. He was never stated to be dead. He was dead in season four and brought back in season five. He was sucked into hell trying to fight the devil. These are the facts that were shown. It was never shown he was dead, or stated by anyone he died again. Therefore, you can't add that he's deceased because that is speculation.

Adam and Sam were both sucked into heal at the same time. Afterwards, Sam is considered to be dead in the show, therefore Adam must be considered dead also. Rreagan007 (talk) 20:09, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Um, no he wasn't. Never said he was dead in the show. Fans just considered him as such. Wiki isn't about fan opinion its about facts that can be cited. Your adding speculation

I'm not speculating. I can cite facts for you that Dean and Bobby clearly thought Sam was dead when he went to hell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoVHDL1fZC0 At 3:00 mark, Dean speaking to Sam: "I wanted my brother, alive."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBu2dIyHJco At the 0:55 mark, Dean speaking to Bobby: "You knew, you knew Sam was alive."
So, Sam was clearly presumed dead when he fell into hell. And as Adam fell into hell at the exact same time and manner, he must be presumed dead also. Rreagan007 (talk) 20:42, 17 March 2012 (UTC)


Sam travelled to hell in Taxi Driver through the 'back door' and was alive and well when he returned. Fandom will deny Adam is dead because he's not. Sam and Dean have not made reference to Adam being dead, so therefore - he is alive. Just being totured by two angry archangels in hell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.135.146.2 (talk) 00:24, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 2 December 2012[edit]

Castiel
Husband
Notevenwithbananas (talk) 02:36, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. - Sorry, I can see that Castiel is a character, but I'm not sure what edit you're proposing here. Apologies if I'm missing something obvious. Begoontalk 03:47, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Edit war on Dean's sexuality[edit]

Recently there was a wiki edit war over Dean Winchester's sexuality, here and on the articles List of dramatic television series with LGBT characters‎, List of LGBT characters in television and List of LGBT characters in film, radio, and TV fiction‎. I engaged one of the participants off-wikipedia, and they asked if it were possible include to a section on this article about fan interpretation on his sexuality. The meta fan articles that were offered: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5] and [6]. I'm aware these are self-published sources, but I thought I'd put this here for the record, in case the topic is brought up again. AD (talk) 01:24, 22 January 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 7 May 2013[edit]

Please kindly add the following line to the article: Henry Winchester (paternal grandfather, deceased)

Thanks! 195.250.72.98 (talk) 07:11, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Done! AD (talk) 10:25, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 12 August 2013[edit]

BOBBY IS ALIVE 216.137.140.228 (talk) 19:24, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Not done: No request -Ryan 20:29, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 May 2014[edit]

Castiel is Dean Winchester's boyfriend Casfromstatefarm (talk) 01:45, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

No, he isn't. AD (talk) 02:35, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Recent Edit Potential Spoiler[edit]

Given that it is LITERALLY the last second of the S9 finale, is there a way to mark the spoiler under Species, as he is now a demon? KurosakisTwin (talk) 23:19, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Spoilers are not a concern on Wikipedia. See WP:SPOILER. Even if it was not in the infobox, it would remain in the article itself. However, I'm not sure on multiple 'species' being listed in the infobox. For example, Castiel is only listed as an angel. Plus none of the Buffy the Vampire Slayer characters have more than one species in their infoboxes. That may be worth discussing. --Ebyabe talk - General Health ‖ 00:28, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2014[edit]

This article is missing valuable information and could be added upon by me. Bluebird622 (talk) 00:39, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Please specify what text should be removed and a verbatim copy of the text that should replace it. Thanks Piguy101 (talk) 01:08, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
I've deactivated the template while we wait to see what Bluebird622 would like to change. Older and ... well older (talk) 02:18, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
I would recommend reactivating the protection, considering the user's other edits. --Ebyabe talk - Repel All Boarders ‖ 05:15, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
The protection is active until 2016, unless an admin changes it. I merely deactivated the {{edit semi-protected}} template for this request. Older and ... well older (talk) 05:30, 31 May 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 July 2014[edit]

deans actual birthday is june 10th Karush23 (talk) 16:43, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. (tJosve05a (c) 18:54, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 2 January 2015[edit]

Please change it from saying Dean was in hell for three months, equal to 30 years, when in fact, Dean was in hell for four months, equal to forty years. 99.154.245.10 (talk) 19:49, 2 January 2015 (UTC)

Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — {{U|Technical 13}} (etc) 23:15, 2 January 2015 (UTC)