Talk:Disturbia (song)/Archive 1

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Merge

Without a confirmed adds date from a reliable source (and Rihanna herself does not count, as artists have very little say in the order of their singles anymore), merely having this article in the first place is a violation of WP:CRYSTAL. --InDeBiz1 Review me! / Talk to me! 06:36, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

InDEBizl Rihanna is very sucesfull Hoeby singing her singles deserve there own pages. (Sexty2 (talk) 19:59, 16 June 2008 (UTC)) Don't let your personal isusses get involed
First, thanks for being late to the party. This thread was started when the record was first delivered to various digital delivery services for radio stations and this article was created. At that time, there was no confirmed adds date for the record anywhere in sight, hence why I propsed the merge. Now that there is an adds date, there is no need for the merge, obviously.
Second, as Rihanna happens to be an artist whose music I greatly enjoy, I can assure you that there are now, nor were there ever, any "personal issues" involved. --InDeBiz1 (talk) 20:49, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

The Movie

Has this any connection to do with the movie starring Shia? 90.149.59.238 (talk) 17:48, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

I am waiting for an answer here! TK(film) (talk) 20:13, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Only in Name cal05000 (talk) 14:48, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Writers

Why does the article claim that Rihanna writes this song? I own the re-release of the album and the liner notes state that Chris Brown writes the song with the other mentioned writers, not Rihanna. It is also put this way on the ASCAP publishing website. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koalaroc (talk • contribs) 10:19, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Rihanna and the Top 40 singles

The article claims that Rihanna is the third since Janet Jackson and Shania Twain to have 6 top 40 singles from one album. However, does Rihanna really counts seeing as this is a release and not found on the original verision of the album like Janet and Shania 6 top 40 singles are? —Preceding unsigned comment added by MRGQ (talk • contribs) 17:52, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

I have to agree with the above statement. The author meant to say re-release. Janet and Shania had those singles released on the original album. Rihanna is not in the same league as Janet or Shania.151.197.29.119 (talk) 15:15, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Genres

Should it not be electropop?--Seán Travers (talk) 13:55, 4 July 2008 (UTC)Seán Travers

I think it should be electropop. XxJoshuaxX (talk) 21:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
I disagree. Charmed36 (talk) 14:25, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Well,the article states that its composition is similar to Don't Stop the Music's composition,and Don't Stop the Music is electropop. XxJoshuaxX (talk) 14:27, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
Similar, but not the same. I can not support an ep genre tag on this one. Pure power pop song, IMO. --Winger84 (talk) 03:24, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
This is synthpop and dance-pop. Where does the electropop come in? I agree that it's similar but not the same. Charmed36 (talk) 15:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Electropop comes in at the beginning when you can clearly hear the beat at that part sampled from Don't Stop the Music. XxJoshuaxX (talk) 13:45, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Spider bit of song

What is she wearing? Looks sheer, wouldn't surprise me if it was another nudey bit like in Umbrella (silver paint) (talk) 10:04, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Speak-And-Spell Inclusion?

Listening to the song, and instrumentals posted on YouTube, I can't help but think that there's a Speak-And-Spell going "i" or "eye" over and over in the background... at least in the beginning. Anybody else think so?223ankher (talk) 19:04, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Add procession and succession

Does anyone know which song "Disturbia" replaced from the top spot on the Brazil Hot 100? If you know will you please update the Chart procession and succession section in the main article. Thanks and regards - Legolas2186 --"Legolas" (talk) 04:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Needed info

  • ref>Harris, Chris (2008-12-04). "Lil Wayne, Coldplay Lead Grammy Nominations". MTV. MTV Networks. Retrieved 2009-04-27. {{cite news}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |work= (help)</ref>
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GA Review

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Reviewer: Basilisk4u (talk · contribs) 01:11, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Hey! I am going to review this article. Yay! Basilisk4u (talk) 01:11, 6 November 2011 (UTC)

Notes

Lead
  • "It impacted US Contemporary hit radio on June 17, 2008" --> It debuted on US Contemporary hit radio
  • "'Disturbia' is an uptempo dance-electro-pop song with a sizzling, sturdy beat." I found that one of the sources referred to the beat as

"sizzling" - this should be in quotes. I am not sure if any of your sources necessarily refer to the beat as "sturdy"

  • "The song has club and dancefloor-like qualities, that recall of Rihanna's 2007 single 'Don't Stop the Music'." --> The song has club and dancefloor-like qualities reminiscent of Rihanna's 2007 single "Don't Stop the Music".
  • "Lyrically, the song explains the strange fears that Rihanna possesses." This sentence is a bit strange. From what I got from the Background section, the song discusses the general experiences of anguish, anxiety and confusion. Perhaps you could reword the sentence to express this.
  • "In the US, Billboard ranked the song at number nine on their list of 'Songs of the Summer of 2008'." Since Billboard is a magazine, it should be "its" instead of "their", so it should be "In the US, Billboard ranked the song at number nine on its 'Songs of the Summer of 2008' list."
  • "Also, About.com ranked the song..." Also --> Additionally - sounds a little better in my opinion
  • "The song also reached the top-ten in more than twenty countries including Australia, Austria, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Norway, Spain, Switzerland, United Kingdom among others." I think listing the countries is a bit much, maybe leave the countries out and combine the sentence with the sentence before it - "The song was a commercial success, reaching number one in Belgium (Flanders) and New Zealand, and becoming a top-ten hit in more than twenty countries."
  • "It portrays Rihanna in a prison cell, wearing lenses that make her eyes roll into the back of her head." Not sure if the lenses part is really necessary for the lead.
Background
  • "Disturbia" was originally written by Rihanna's ex-boyfriend Chris Brown and his team" If I'm not mistaken, weren't Rihanna and Chris dating at the time? If they were, it is more concise to use "then-boyfriend"
  • "In an interview on This Morning, Rihanna also said that the song is not necessarily about a personal experience. She said it was about mental anguish, anxiety and confusion." This should probably be one sentence --> "In an interview on This Morning, Rihanna said that the song is not necessarily about a specific personal experience, but rather the general feelings of mental anguish, anxiety and confusion."
  • "Rihanna further explained that she wanted to record the song because its topic is something that affects many people at one time or another." --> "Rihanna further explained that she wanted to record the song because she felt that listeners would be able to relate to the subject matter."
  • This is just a curiosity, but do you know of any connection between the song and the movie Disturbia? Because when I heard it the first time, I was wondering about that. This is not required for the GA though haha
Actually I didn't met any source saying that the both of them are connected. :) So I don't think there is a connection between them. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 09:35, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
Composition
  • Same thing about the sizzling, sturdy beat - should be in quotes and the link to the source about it being sturdy appears to have died :(
Critical reception
  • "'Disturbia' is Rihanna's most progressive and confident vocal to-date, ringing the authority of an established star." - displaying the authority
  • All references to magazine lists should use "its" instead of "their"
  • "however after a certain mash-up, Katy Perry accepted the award for her single 'I Kissed A Girl'." --> "however, after a miscommunication, Katy Perry..."
Chart performance

Looks fine :D

Music video
  • "First, it was reported that originally the video was directed by American photographer and director, David LaChapelle" --> "Originally, it was reported that the video was directed..."
Live performances

Great job!

There are actually quite a lot of issues in this section. Keep the review open please, I will comment within 12/15 hours. Calvin • TalkThatTalk 01:05, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
Actually, I just read the article through as a whole, and there is a lot of poor phrasing and word choices throughout the article. Calvin • TalkThatTalk 01:14, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
Sourcing
  • I checked the links, only 12 and 51 are dead. I will try to replace or remove them. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 09:35, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
  • This is not required for GA, but in the future it might be nice to reformat the dates from 2011-08-15 to August 15, 2011 style.
    (All Rihanna GAs follow the former format) Calvin • TalkThatTalk 01:14, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Okay I have finished the review and put it on hold :)

Comments by Calvin999

Info box
  • Change the length parameter from 3:58 to {{Duration|m=3|s=58}}
Lead
  • → "from the re-release"
  • → "released as the third single"
  • → ""Disturbia" was released to US Contemporary hit radio"
  • → "with production of the song completeed Kennedy"
  • As "sizzling" is a quote, you need to put the reference here, even though it's in the Lead.
  • ""club" and "dancefloor-like" qualities", same here, reference(s) needed.
  •  Not done. People reading the Lead won't see a hidden message will they. Calvin • TalkThatTalk 14:36, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
  • It's not about whether or not you agree, if you put quotes in the lead, you have to put the reference there, as you are directly quoting. Calvin • TalkThatTalk 17:58, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

"Aharoni">Calvin ]]• TalkThatTalk 17:54, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

  • → "by music critics,"
  • Instead of saying "The song" twice in the third para, change of them to "Disturbia".
  • → " then highest debut; the song peaked at number one on the chart, and stayed there for two consecutive weeks." Perhaps also state how many number one singles it gave Rihanna at the time?
  • Yeah, but because it was her third from that album. Not many artists have three number one singles from the same album. Calvin • TalkThatTalk 14:36, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
  • → "was directed by Anthony Mandler" How many had he actually directed before "Disturbia" ?
  • → "gas chamber"
  • → "in a prison cell and gass chamber. Other scenes include Rihanna in a gas chamber," Why do you say gas chamber twice? Sort this line out then I will say what else is wrong with it, as it's confusing to you if I explain it now.
  • "The song has been a staple in Rihanna's performances" Makes no sense. I get what you are getting at, but it's not worded well.

Calvin • TalkThatTalk 16:12, 12 November 2011 (UTC)

Will continue other sections a bit later. Calvin • TalkThatTalk 14:36, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

Lead round two

Change to:

"Disturbia" is a song by Barbadian recording artist Rihanna, taken from the re-release, Good Girl Gone Bad: Reloaded (2008), of her third studio album Good Girl Gone Bad (2007). The song was released as the third single from the reloaded edition of the album, and seventh overall. The song was written by Andre Merritt, Chris Brown, Brian Kennedy, Rob. A, with production of the song completed by Kennedy. "Disturbia" is an uptempo dance-pop and electro-pop song with a "sizzling" beat.[2][3] "Disturbia" was well received by music critics with many of them praising its dark musical tone, lyrics and beat.

"Disturbia" debuted at number eighteen in the US Billboard Hot 100 and became Rihanna's then highest debut. Later, it managed to reach number-one on the chart, and stayed there for two consecutive weeks. With that the song became Rihanna's third number-one single from Good Girl Gone Bad and fourth overall in the United States. The song also reached number one in Belgium (Flanders) and New Zealand and became a top-ten hit in more than twenty countries including Australia, Canada and the United Kingdom. The accompanying music video for "Disturbia" was directed by American director Anthony Mandler, and portrays Rihanna in various situations such as in a prison cell and gas chamber. "Disturbia" has regularly featured in Rihanna's tours and live performances since its release. The song was part of the set-list on her three major tours: Good Girl Gone Bad (2007—09), Last Girl on Earth (2010—11) and Loud Tour (2011).

A lot of it was waffle, the Lead was too long for the article, which isn't that long. Calvin • TalkThatTalk 16:53, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

 Not done ... And also not planning to do. "Disturbia" is not nominated for FA as "Hard" which by the way is half from "Disturbia". I can cut something from the lead, but this what you wrote here is funny. — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 17:39, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Cut out the radio release, "It is reminiscent of one of Rihanna's previous singles "Don't Stop the Music". Lyrically, the song discusses the general experiences of anguish, anxiety and confusion.", the award it won and the grammy nomination (it's only a nomination, not a win). This is just padding it out. Make the Lead three paragraphs. And cut out the "List of Summer songs" and the About.com, it's pointless in the Lead. Calvin • TalkThatTalk 17:55, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
 Done by Jivesh — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 18:14, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
(edit conflict) I don't want to see four paragraphs, it doesn't look right. Three would look a lot better. And it reads like a list of cold hard facts, the flow is awful. Calvin • TalkThatTalk 18:15, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Welcome me warmly RiRi stans. Lol. Calvin, GAN =/= FAC. A four paragraph lead can remain for a song of the standard of "Disturbia". It was very successful, well received by critics, was nominated for awards, and was performed on numerous occasions. Jivesh 1205 (talk) 18:24, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
(edit conflict) It looks weak, and I stand by it read a like a list of hard facts, the flow is really bad. Three paragraphs would look a lot better. Love the Way You Lie has four, but they are bigger and more informationall. Disturbia is not Love the Way You Lie, nor was it as successful or does it have as much information. I'm standing my ground on this. Calvin • TalkThatTalk 18:26, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Oh God, sometimes you really go on my nerves! What looks weak here please? I can tell you at least three Rihanna articles that have weaker leads than "Disturbia"... — Tomica1111 • Question Existing? 18:32, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Three paragraphs would look a lot stronger than having four. I'm not saying the content is weak, however the are major flow issues. Calvin • TalkThatTalk 18:33, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Jivesh has made it into three paragraphs, and it looks a lot better, but the flow is still a problem. (More so that before now). Calvin • TalkThatTalk 18:36, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
Re-write  Done Jivesh 1205 (talk) 18:38, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
"Jivesh has made it into three paragraphs, and it looks a lot better, but the flow is still a problem. (More so that before now)." Calvin • TalkThatTalk 18:39, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
I've done this now. Calvin • TalkThatTalk 13:08, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

Background

Will start later today. Calvin • TalkThatTalk 13:08, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

GA Pass

All of my concerns have been addressed. As this is not a featured article review, any more concerns can be fixed later. This review has been going on for too long, and Calvin does not appear to be active in the discussion anymore. I strongly believe that this article currently meets the GA standard, and this should be acknowledged. Congratulations! Basilisk4u (talk) 23:50, 27 November 2011 (UTC)

  1. ^ "Songs of the Summer 1986-2009". Billboard. Nielsen Business Media, Inc. 2010-07-01. Retrieved 2010-07-10.
  2. ^ Cite error: The named reference Yahoo! Music was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  3. ^ Cite error: The named reference Digital Spy was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
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