Talk:Dora Richter/Archive 1

Archive 1

Are the dates correct?

On this page it is stated: "After this there was a long pause, until the beginning of the year 1931, when the penis amputation was done and in June, the here described surgery"—a highly experimental vaginoplasty performed by Dr Erwin Gohrbandt (1890–1965). The highly experimental operation, which included the first attempt at vaginoplasty, and the resulting publicity drew Lili Elbe to the Institute.

On the page lili elbe is written: In 1930, Elbe went to Germany for sex reassignment surgery, which was highly experimental at the time.

It must have been other publicity that drew Lili Elbe tot the institute in 1930, because the vagino plasty for Dorchen Richter happend in 1931.

145.119.165.117 (talk) 08:20, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

I don't know... it may be referring to her first surgery, years earlier. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 12:50, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

The statement about Elbe isn't especially pertinent to this article, so I've removed it, and added something about Richter's disappearance. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 14:11, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Gender and Name

WP policy WP:GENDERID specifies that, as a trans woman, female pronouns must be used throughout the article to refer to Richter. As a biographical detail, and to make it clear that she was not given the name Dora at birth, it's appropriate and informative to state her given birth name in the appropriate section of the article. However, MOS:MULTIPLENAMES specifies that because she was not notable under that name, it does not belong in the lede, which should summarize only the most noteworthy facts of the article. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 14:32, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

Ah, you're right. I misinterpreted WP policy with my reverts. I probably mistook the policy on living trans people with the one for historical figures, sorry. —AFreshStart (talk) 14:56, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Actually, there currently is no policy governing when or how to include the non-notable (but verifiable) prior names of deceased Trans people. The last RfC on the topic didn't produce any new guidance on the issue. Newimpartial (talk) 16:06, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Delete the information from 'Attitude'

This article contains information from the source 'attitude.co.uk'. It refers to an article about Dora Richter, written by some Will Stroude. Will Stroude is in no way an authority on the matter of transhistory as far as I can tell from his archive or any information available on him. Please keep this Wikipedia as truthful and scientific as possible. The same for related Wiki's. It's not about telling stories, you are talking about real history. 2001:1C00:2A1B:C100:C14F:8E78:C8D3:292D (talk) 20:13, 14 February 2023 (UTC)

No. Attitude (magazine) is a notable publication, and appears to easily meet WP:RS guidelines. OhNoitsJamie ^Talk 21:12, 14 February 2023 (UTC)