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How many articles do we have that discuss the genetics of Egyptians?[edit]

Anyone know? I wonder how different they are. Dougweller (talk) 21:23, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Don't know, but this article is probably the right place for it. As long it doesn't go off into the whole Egyptians-are-real-Africans direction... ♆ CUSH ♆ 22:59, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
Take a look at Talk:Ancient Egyptian race controversy. Searching, we also have Archaeogenetics of the Near East, Population history of Egypt, and DNA history of Ancient Egypt. Dougweller (talk) 05:51, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. If I weren't so lazy, I'd place merge tags. ♆ CUSH ♆ 09:29, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
Ok, I have placed merge tags. Now all hell's gonna break loose. ♆ CUSH ♆

Recent edits[edit]

I've just deleted some material on the Tigray, explaining why in my edit summaries. There were two types of sources used. Two didn't meet our criteria at WP:RS - I didn't read those. The other two were academic papers which didn't discuss the Tigray. These were 1999 and 2007 sources, and some Frank Yurco (who died in 2004), in a feat of magic, " confirmed this finding of historical and regional continuity," in a 1996 paper. Removing that also as among other things he wasn't writing about genetics so he doesn't belong in a section on genetics. Dougweller (talk) 10:28, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Apparently copied from elsewhere in any case[1] or some other source. Dougweller (talk) 10:48, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Recent Genetic Studies on Rameses Dynasty Lineages[edit]

Recent DNA studies of mummies of the Ramesses dynasty of the New Kingdom state that they carried the Haplogroup E1b1a,[1] which "is a lineage that originated and expanded from West or Central Africa[.]" [2]


What is the problem with the above? They are direct quotes and just as relevant as the ABO studies. Do not revert referenced material without cause again in order to push your pov. If you want to add disclaimers than do so with the article as well with the sources you have. Regards, Andajara120000 (talk) 13:50, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

I had serious cause as this is a violation of [{WP:SYN]], for a start. You are combining two sources to make an argument. Secondly, we do not cherry-pick data from scientific articles, we simply use the conclusions, which were " This study suggests that Ramesses III was murdered during the harem conspiracy by the cutting of his throat. Unknown man E is a possible candidate as Ramesses III’s son Pentawere. " Material which violates our policies on sources and original research can be reverted. Disclaimers are irrelevant and would again be original research. You don't understand our policies and guidelines and your response to editors reverting you has been to try to get them blocked or banned. Dougweller (talk) 16:46, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Rameses DNA Dispute Resolution Filed[edit]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution_noticeboard#DNA_history_of_Egypt

Updating History section?[edit]

I think there should be a new subsection added to the History section to detail the anti-Mubarak protests and the post-Mubarak years. The article is currently lacking in detailed information about recent years.IrishStephen (talk) 17:47, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

Should Omar Sharif be added?[edit]

Should Omar Sharif be added to the collage? --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 04:35, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

  1. ^ Hawass at al. 2012, Revisiting the harem conspiracy and death of Ramesses III: anthropological, forensic, radiological, and genetic study. BMJ2012;345doi: http://dx.doi.org/10.1136/bmj.e8268 Published 17 December 2012: "Genetic kinship analyses revealed identical haplotypes in both mummies; using the Whit Athey’s haplogroup predictor, we determined the Y chromosomal haplogroup E1b1a. The testing of polymorphic autosomal microsatellite loci provided similar results in at least one allele of each marker (table 2⇓). Although the mummy of Ramesses III’s wife Tiy was not available for testing, the identical Y chromosomal DNA and autosomal half allele sharing of the two male mummies strongly suggest a father-son relationship."
  2. ^ International Society of Genetic Genealogy (3 February 2010). "Y-DNA Haplogroup E and its Subclades - 2010". Retrieved 17 December 2010. : "E1b1a is a lineage that originated and expanded from West or Central Africa[.]"