Talk:Electric water boiler

Tea urn

This article seems to be describing what would be known in Britain as a "tea urn", however the typical British tea urn looks nothing like the picture in the article (see here for example - the one shown is gas powered, but there are similar looking electric models as well). 217.155.20.163 23:16, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Does the English "tea urn" boil water or does it merely keep it hot? These electric water dispensing pots first boil the water, and then keep it at a specific temperature. The most common available temperature settings are: 60ºC, 80ºC, 90ºC and 98ºC. These pots are only meant to store water and not any other kind of liquid. By the way, if you live near an East Asian grocery store or Chinatown or Japantown, you are very likely to see one of these dispensing pots. However, these are not common items in South Asian (Indian, Pakistani, etc.) stores. They are only common among East Asians.

Re: Operation of a simple water boiler

I noticed that the section was deleted with the given reason "does this really add value to the article?". Well, I thought that the reader might want to know how the appliance knows when to turn itself off, or how it knows it has been turned on without any water in the container. Not really advocating for reinclusion, if you don't think it's relevant to the reader then so be it, but I thought it would be better to respond to the question just the same. Shinobu (talk) 14:27, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

kettles

They b kettles... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.43.131 (talk) 21:07, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

kettles have their own article

I don't think it makes sense to lump kettles in with those asian household devices for maintaining and dispensing hot water. Many tea/coffee machines in public offices/colleges can also dispense hot water, should we lump them into this article too? Obviously not.

I suggest moving the small amount of kettle information to the specific article: kettle; and let this article stand as an article for the things that can both maintain and dispense hot water. Gronky (talk) 01:03, 5 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If these aren't kettles, we should remove anything that talks about an appliance that only boils water and then lets it cool until manually reset. Do these appliances hold the water temperature after boiling? --Wtshymanski (talk) 18:56, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There are two sorts of water boiler: the old and larger sort, still common in offices, where a large volume of water is heated and then held at temperature; then the more modern and energy-efficient sort, where they use a powerful heating element on cold water, like an electric shower. Both are thermostatically controlled but only the later could really be said to "switch off" after use.

Kettles are quite different: they are filled with a measured quantity of cold water according to what's needed, then boiled, then they switch/are switched off.

A tea urn is different again, in that (like teapots and some kettles) one might make tea actually in the vessel, not just use it to make hot water. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:36, 30 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The two appliances aren't quite as distinct as you make out. My electric kettle has temperature controls and a "keep warm" button that causes it to maintain the programmed temperature after reaching it rather than switching off. It was still marketed as a kettle though. I wonder if the difference is more down to whether the country's electrical system allows appliances to draw enough power to quickly boil a small amount of water on demand: if it doesn't, then there's going to be a market for devices that boil and maintain temperature. --James (talk) 10:30, 18 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Electric?

Re this addition [1] (since reverted)

Do we want that here? Should this article be about electric hot water makers, or about the function of this device (boiling water on tap), whether heated by electricity or some historical precedent? As a historical note, I favour it - the "gas geyser" was an important bit of plumbing in the UK. Even under the current name, I think it's just about acceptable as an anachronism. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:11, 21 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Overlap

There is an overlap between this article (Electric water boiler) with electric kettles, instant hot water dispensers, and water dispensers (which often have a heating/cooling ability), along with electric boilers (which does not boil just water).

These articles are supersets or subsets of each other, and I propose that they should be linked to each other in a consistent manner, and showcase their common aspects and differences.

Perhaps there could be an article (either new or existing) with some sort of nested list:

boiler
- electric boiler
  - electric water boiler
  - electric kettle (a type of kettle)
  - instant hot water dispenser (a type of water dispenser)

The common thing is that they each boil water. But each one employs either a different method of boiling it, and has a differing form factor.

- 172.218.5.205 (talk) 23:00, 24 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]