Talk:Eva Dobell

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"Stout begins her chapter on women poets of World War I by acknowledging the contribution of Catherine Reilly’s Scars upon My Heart, yet noting that the privileging of the male voice and the experience of combat still prevails in scholarship. Yet not all women were “naturally” excluded from the battlefields; notably, female medical persona like May Sinclair, Vera Brittain, Mary Henderson, and Eva Dobell, working in dressing stations and hospitals, witnessed the immediate results of combat. Their elegiac poems, characterized by a sense of mourning, emphasized the suffering they witnessed in the injured, often with arresting candor. In “Looking Back on the Great War,” post war disillusion with its enormous “outpouring of cultural products by writers, composers, filmmakers, and visual artists [that] expressed grief, revulsion, and despair coalescing in a consensus that the war marked a break point in history” (83). Retrospective portrayals of the war often displayed irony and sarcasm, as in the style of Hemingway and Pound, to reflect the continued disenchantment that characterized the post-war decade. Stout pairs post war poetry with music, sculpture and painting by Alban Berg, Kathe Kollwitz and Otto Dix before turning to the poetry of Blunden, Larkin, Pound and Cummings among others."

Heather Lusty. "Looking Back: New Studies in the Literature of Twentieth-Century War." Journal of Modern Literature (Summer 2008) 31.4: 145-51. E-ISSN: 1529-1464 Print ISSN: 0022-281X. DOI: 10.1353/jml.0.0014

merry christmas

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2004/dec/19/christmas.christmas2004: Eva Dobell's "Briar Roses" as background poetic muzak in a British mall.

google books

http://books.google.com/books?id=Fnl0zsFAZRcC&pg=PA769&lpg=PA769&dq=eva+dobell&source=web&ots=rrecwahyz6&sig=sC5tt--h3fC73Yad1PrpxY4Q11A&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=6&ct=result#PPA769,M1

http://books.google.com/books?id=JMtqyxmo5j8C&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=eva+dobell&source=web&ots=wEsp-RFrQu&sig=TXqw7t7ioYBpxMzqkoEGjLGP3C4&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=9&ct=result

cited in a 1985 paper

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6VBD-466M01R-57&_user=10&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&view=c&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=cb36b168a696e8ad309c277065e7c2b0

and google books...

... http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=eva%20dobell&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wp==Parentage==

Parentage

Eva is described in Wikipedia as the daughter of a Cheltenham wine merchant and local historian. I would suggest that the father is Clarence Mason Dobell, but it is not all straightforward. Her dob of 1867 predates his marriage. and is 9 years before the birth of his daughter Eveline Jesse. I've come upon a reference which says baldly that Eva was Clarence's daughter but have not yet been able to get proof-positive. http://allpoetry.com/Eva_Dobell If she were 9 years younger than is usually accepted, it would perhaps shed some different light on her work - as well as her longevity!AlfD1234 (talk) 17:32, 8 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I have been unable to find a birth or death of anyone called Eva Dobell in the years attributed to her. Death I could explain, for example, it could have been elsewhere than in the UK. Birth: hardly. http://allpoetry.com/Eva_Dobell is quite clear in locating Eva as Clarence's daughter, but I haven't seen their evidence All sources I've seen say Sidney Thompson Dobell was her uncle. He was certainly Eveline's. With all of this stacking up I think I've nearly reached the point to edit "her" - maybe by offering her two personas. Is this legitimate? I'm rather new around here.AlfD1234 (talk) 13:06, 11 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Be bold

That's what my mentor told me was the essence of wiki. I've edited the biography part of her entry. It lacks citations but they exist and I will add them when I find out just how!AlfD1234 (talk) 18:22, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]