Talk:Evzones
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Merge Evzones / Proedriki Froura
[edit]Please see: Talk:Proedriki Froura#Merge Evzones / Proedriki Froura. Nabla 22:57, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Unit Badge/Emblem
[edit]Does anyone have a graphic of the Presidential Guard unit patch? Dragases 06:28, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Tsoliades
[edit]I recall someone mentioning to me that the term "Tsoliades" comes from the word "Tsolia" (Τσόλια), meaning "rags" (probably in reference to the ragged appearance of the klephts during the Greek War of Independence). The origin of this word doesn't sound Greek - possibly Albanian or Turkish? I haven't been able to find a reference to it anywhere. Dragases
- I removed the link to Tsoliades as it just redirects back here. 71.253.50.70 (talk) 22:51, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
I would really like you guys to see a Greek documentary called "1821 Skai" in you tube, then you can add a word or two about the Albanian origin of Fustanela that was wore by the Arvanites during the War of Independence. This would most likely bring the truth out, and serve as recognition of Albanian culture contribution in the modern Greek state... thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.106.109.89 (talk) 17:10, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- I'm all for recognizing Arvanite cultural influences on Greece (extremely so). But the documentary you mention has become infamous for the political/ideological leanings of its producers and the people they used as sources. Please don't rely on it here as some kind of definitive account of history. In answer to the original question, I see that there is some disagreement in the Greek Wikipedia page about the word tsoliades. One editor explains what I've always believed to be true: that tsolia comes from the Turkish çul and means "rags". According to that editor, this was the slang that the Turks called the klephts because of the tatters of their clothes. The othe etymology given (and one that I've never heard before) is that tsoliades comes from stoliades, meaning "people wearing a uniform". Supposedly this was the name given to the soldiers who wore the uniforms that King Otto imported. 69.196.154.93 (talk) 01:00, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for confirming the "rags" origin of the word - I'm inclined to believe this etymology. As far as the Albanian origin of the fustanella goes, recent research reveals it goes further back in time than the appearance/rise/arrival of the Albanian people in the region. In my opinion, the Tosk settlers in Greece played a big part in popularising it on the peninsula during the Ottoman period, but there is evidence (as outlined in the foustanella article) that it was in common use amongst the Greeks long before the Albanians "introduced" it.Dragases (talk) 15:21, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
- I'm all for recognizing Arvanite cultural influences on Greece (extremely so). But the documentary you mention has become infamous for the political/ideological leanings of its producers and the people they used as sources. Please don't rely on it here as some kind of definitive account of history. In answer to the original question, I see that there is some disagreement in the Greek Wikipedia page about the word tsoliades. One editor explains what I've always believed to be true: that tsolia comes from the Turkish çul and means "rags". According to that editor, this was the slang that the Turks called the klephts because of the tatters of their clothes. The othe etymology given (and one that I've never heard before) is that tsoliades comes from stoliades, meaning "people wearing a uniform". Supposedly this was the name given to the soldiers who wore the uniforms that King Otto imported. 69.196.154.93 (talk) 01:00, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Height requirements
[edit]It's well known they only take into their ranks the tallest people, 1.90m and above or something. fs 14:39, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
- In 1994, the minimum height requirement was 1.86 meters; not sure if this has changed since then. Another misconception is that the Evzones are just ceremonial troops. The Presidential Guard is a primarily ceremonial unit, but all Evzones are infantrymen who must have at least 6-8 months deployment with an operational (i.e. combat) unit before being allowed to join.Dragases (talk) 04:48, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
Marching
[edit]It is not correct to say that the Evzones always march in slow time. Their movements when on guard are performed in slow time, but they march at normal infantry pace.
Ben.hastings (talk) 17:07, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
- That's not actually true. Their normal march is slower than normal infantry pace, which is why they are generally placed at the beginning or end of a parade. I think they've modified their pace at times, but generally it's a slow one. I can't find a reference with the number just now. 69.196.154.93 (talk) 01:05, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
External links
[edit]I deleted some external links that no longer work. Gre_regiment (talk) 11:47, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
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