Talk:Fairhope, Alabama

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Images[edit]

04-October-2006: Three (3) new images have been linked into the Fairhope article, copied from public-domain images prepared by FEMA for Hurricane Georges and by NOAA for the Weeks Bay National Estuarine Research Reserve (NERR) in Fairhope, Alabama. Inside the new image entries are key details:

  • the source URL of the original image files on U.S. Government websites;
  • the license designation as a "public domain" image file; and
  • a detailed description of the Federal government office which prepared the image.

The details stated for each image are very thorough, so no Wiki-deletion problems should arise for those new documented images. Note: Any photographers wishing to upload photographs of Fairhope may release and give their photos as personally-created public-domain works. -Wikid77 17:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Notes section[edit]

23-March-2007: A Wikipedia "Notes" section contains footnotes, such as defined from ref-tags (<ref name=acme7>xxx</ref>). The footnotes (displayed by "<references/>") can cite sources or just explain details as an aside comment. A Wikipedia "References" section is a bibliography, typically in alphabetical order by name of author or organization.
To condense citation footnotes, reuse the same ref-name with a trailing slash "/" ("<ref name=acme7/>"), then for books, list all relevant page numbers in the one reused ref-tag (example: <ref name=acme7>J. Doe, ''ACME Handbook'', June 1897, pages 9/16/34-36.</ref>). Read more at: Wikipedia:Guide_to_layout. -Wikid77 09:35, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

Who ever is using this article and deleting text should be aware of the policy governing editing. 207.157.85.3 22:06, 2 May 2007 (UTC)Twizzlesticks

207.157.85.3 22:06, 2 May 2007 (UTC)Twizzlesticks

There are some people working for the city administration of Fairhope that are adding bias to this article

This article includes heavy bias and opinion and contains language and tone not suiting an encyclopedic entry. It should be tagged for cleanup. Frankenzoyd 17:00, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

To those who continue to add/revert the paragraphs regarding modern growth in Fairhope: please review the policy regarding neutrality (and also the practice of repeatedly reverting changes). It may well be true that Fairhope leaders are currently either asleep at the wheel or in the pockets of developers, but such opinion has no place on these pages, which are intended to be encyclopedic in nature. I omitted these passages a couple of times, but have since revised them as best as is possible, to be strictly as factual as possible. As it is, some citations are still needed in order to bring the entry up to par. Frankenzoyd 19:59, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

This article has suffered notable damage due to local POV entries that are not considered encyclopedic in nature. I have removed what I feel, as a resident of Fairhope, information that would be considered under the following:

  • Advertising.
  • Use of WikiPedia for personal gain or selfish notarity.
  • Unverifiable information that is highly opinionated.

If you're a resident, like myself, and you feel that you're right, then cite the work that you're putting into this article. I don't care what you think about the mayor, city, its recent administrative decisions, or quite simply how much prose you'd like to put into the article, the entries people are making simply aren't up to par. Yet again, I've found that advertising from local businesses simply because they have a 2 paragraph page in the midst of a plethera of links to buy or sell goods in the city is against the WikiPedia standards. I have tagged this article for need of citation, re: July 2007, as there are uncited facts within the article that could be misconstrued or simply opinionated to make the city look cute. On another note, can anyone please verify that since Weeks Bay is not a part of the Fairhope city limits if it should even be noted within the article. --Mnemnoch 08:02, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

History section[edit]

If Fairhope is suffering from a lack of oversight then you should be able to offer a source and citation. We cannot just take your opinion for it. Please include appropriate sourcing. Thanks JodyB yak, yak, yak 19:26, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm attempting to prevent a revert war because a lot of the information on the page is not 100% verifiable or citable and I realize that's a rule. However, I'm asking both Twizzlesticks and OleFairhoper for fair mediation in this issue before I second the nomination for an admin. I've left this article alone before and I continue to see the same vandalism over and over. If you've got a suggestion, please recommend it on my talk page. Mnemnoch's Talk Page --Mnemnoch 20:01, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
I am an admin but do not feel I should use those tools here myself. I have already posted to WP:ANI here. There is a third User:OldFairhope as well. JodyB yak, yak, yak 23:59, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
Thanks, guys. I'd been noticing this reverting going on for a while, but I'm a relatively new editor and am still learning the ropes. I'm glad someone else noticed. I tried removing those last three paragraphs of the history section several times (I don't think they belong there at all) but eventually gave up and just tried to revise them as best as was possible, but that didn't do the trick, either. Frankenzoyd 20:31, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
My wonder would be then how citable "History of Fairhope 1954-present Mobile: Putman, 2006" could potentially be since that is the only reason I've not just outright removed the three paragraphs personally is since it cited a source as I can't verify it. When the city has finished building its Fairhope Historical Museum, then I could potentially request further publications. Otherwise, I'm going to leave it up to JodyB or another Admin and their experience to determine if this should be removed or not. From what I remember reading, if it's not 100% verifiable, then it needs to be removed. --Mnemnoch 23:46, 3 August 2007 (UTC) (Signing after the fact)
I just walked in from a meeting in Mobile and am just too tired to do anything at the moment but I will do some serious pruning tomorrow on those 'graphs. I think there may be some truth to the statements but I sure don't know how to verify it. As the olds folks used to say "let me conjutate" on it tonight and we'll see. I appreciate the good work from everyone. JodyB yak, yak, yak 02:22, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Marietta Johnson School[edit]

I notated it on my last edit, but either the school needs its own page or it needs to be an article in itself on "life groups" since they are the alternative process for grades at the school. --Mnemnoch 02:35, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Mayberry style...[edit]

User:UB65 is attempting to prevent an edit war and for that we are thankful. However you have still added a factual statement which needs verification. I am not going to change or revert the edit but I will ask you to bring some legitimate sourcing to the table. Speaking of Mayberry style charm sounds like POV from the Chamber of Commerce. Speaking of Fairhope "once being known for its Mayberry style charm..." suggest it has lost it. Is Fairhope struggling with population growth and is that significant enough to include? All I want to see is good solid sourcing of comments. Please continue your work but can you cite any sources? Thanks for your help. Don't be a stranger! JodyB yak, yak, yak 03:25, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

The city lost the charm some time ago. In fact, the "Mayberry of the South" was from years ago. I think it might as well stay off until the citations are found. (I'd have to dig around packed away books and visit the museums for most and I just don't feel like dealing with it for now. Maybe someday if I get time.) The population growth seems to be much like other small towns have faced though it came on suddenly. Within one decade population almost doubled. Maybe folks could cite data and news articles regarding this. Anyway, thanks for the heads-up.  :) --UB65 03:27, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Notable Residents[edit]

Notible Residents should easily be cited to the article and verifiable. Otherwise, this just looks like a list that started to build up for people to gain personal fame. I'm going to put an expiry of two weeks on the residents before I start removing the ones I know are a bit out of the way. Please contribute to show that the resident is verifiable before they are removed. --Mnemnoch 17:38, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Why is it that people revert to a time when the links were all there... If anyone would like to link to the existing notible residents, please do so and help out! Mnemnoch (talk) 00:09, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject class rating[edit]

This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 05:55, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Title picture[edit]

This page needs a picture to replace the mapRetrolord (talk) 08:46, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

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