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- Out of all of the images currently in the article, you focus on the same-sex one, which doesn't even clearly show the act of fellatio because of the shadows? Out of all the human fellatio images in the article, that one is the less offensive one...except for in the cases of those who find homosexuality offensive no matter what. It also abides by Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images#Offensive images and WP:GRATUITOUS, when compared to other real-life male-male fellatio images on WP:Commons. If we had a painting or computer-generated image of male-male fellatio, like we have of male-female fellatio, we would likely use that image per Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images#Offensive images and WP:GRATUITOUS, since it would likely be the less offensive "equally suitable alternative." Flyer22 (talk) 08:04, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
- As seen with this edit (followup note here), I reverted Vranak's removal of the male-male fellatio image. Vranak called the image "a bit much altogether." Vranak, given what I stated to the IP above in this section, how is the image, which is not as explicit as the other images of human fellatio in the article, "a bit much altogether"? Flyer22 (talk) 23:38, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- And for why I included a male-male image, see the #'Either gender' really should be changed to 'any gender'. section above, which notes the Talk:Fellatio/Archive 2#Balance of images heterocentric discussion. Flyer22 (talk) 23:44, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- You've gotta rememeber that this is an encyclopedia, not a risque book to put on your coffee table, and it's certainly not a porn site. It's a little explicit. Hand-drawn illustrations tone it down enough to keep things palatable. Moreover, let's remember that heteronormative is a thing because, all issues of politics aside, heterosexuality is the norm. Vranak (talk) 23:48, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
- Vranak (last time WP:Pinging you to this section because I assume that you will check back here if you want to read replies), if I didn't remember that "this is an encyclopedia, not a risque book to put on [my] coffee table, and it's certainly not a porn site.", then I would not have mentioned Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Images#Offensive images and WP:GRATUITOUS. I also would not have made the comments I made in the #Why not a photo? section above. Or the comments I made in the Gawker interview noted on Seedfeeder's talk page; he now has a Wikipedia article, by the way. To preach to me about readers interpreting images as pornographic and that "[h]and-drawn illustrations tone it down enough to keep things palatable" is preaching to the wrong person. That stated, your objection to the male-male image at hand is an objection I disagree with; the image doesn't look doesn't pornographic to me, and it barely even shows the fellatio, which is exactly why I chose it. Preaching to me about heteronormativity is also wasted on me, as is clear from my user page. As noted there on my user page, engaging in WP:Advocacy is not my thing; using WP:Due weight appropriately is.
- I totally agree with the original comment by Flyer22. The image is extremely gross. Why must Wikipedia become a porn site? 184.108.40.206 (talk) 09:08, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
- By my "original comment," you mean what I stated in the "Why not a photo?" section above? Or are you confusing me with a different editor? Also, how is the real-life image more gross than the drawn lead (introductory) image that clearly shows the act? Furthermore, you have a history of opposing same-sex sexual imagery; see this link. And as that link shows, you are opposing a painting in that case. Flyer22 (talk) 01:09, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
WP:See also, and "cocksucker" in the lead
Joeleoj123 (talk · contribs), because I've reverted you twice now on the WP:See also matter, as seen here and here, I started this section. I would have started it on your talk page, but, if you are going to WP:Edit war over this, the discussion is better served here. That link does not need to be in the See also section; this is because it is already in the Practice section of the article. Read what WP:See also states about including links that are already in the article. And as for "cocksucker" being in the lead, it does not belong there; this is per these two edit summaries. Flyer22 (talk) 15:20, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Oops, I thought that I didn't make changes (assuming that I did only "edit", "preview" but not pressing "save changes"). Sorry, should've look at the "edit history". I tend to forget my very past edits.Joeleoj123 (talk) 19:55, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
Remove the Taste and odor section
The first sentence is based on opinion not facts, and the wording is very heteronormative. The rest of the section is unsourced and I am not sure it has encyclopedic value. Prcc27🍀 (talk) 02:59, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
Fellatio can lead to pregnancy!
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/Wellness/teen-girl-vagina-pregnant-sperm-survival-oral-sex/story?id=9732562 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk • contribs)
- You are linking to the bizarre story that is currently linked at the Oral sex article. Fellatio was not the cause of the pregnancy. If a couple starts kissing and the kissing escalates to sexual activity (yes, I know kissing can be sexual too) that results in the conception of a baby, then one could argue that the kissing led to pregnancy. The point is that fellatio does not cause pregnancy because the throat, and where the sperm may go after that point, is not a reproductive tract. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 05:03, 3 April 2016 (UTC)