Talk:Fire (Kids See Ghosts song)

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Date	Process	Result
December 21, 2020	Good article nominee	Listed
March 10, 2021	Articles for deletion	Kept
March 31, 2021	Good topic candidate	Promoted

Current status: Good article

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GA Review

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Reviewer: Ashleyyoursmile (talk · contribs) 15:09, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I shall review it soon. --Ashley yoursmile! 15:09, 20 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ashleyyoursmile I have replied below where I disagree with you, though haven't implemented any changes yet due to believing it is best to wait until the end of your review. --K. Peake 05:59, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Kyle Peake: I've replied below. I shall try to review the remaining sections later today. --Ashley yoursmile! 06:08, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ashleyyoursmile Good luck with that... I have crossed out the edit we agreed on not being complied with at all, though will still wait until the review is over to make any changes. --K. Peake 06:19, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

No issues found with the infobox. Looks great.
It was written by all of the producers, apart from BoogzDaBeast. A rock-influenced track, the song includes a sample of Napoleon XIV's "They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa!" → Written by the producers with exception of BoogzDaBeast, the rock-influenced track includes a sample of Napoleon XIV's "They're Coming to Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa!" (1966).

Done with changes and I didn't add the release year since that is not needed in the lead for songs --K. Peake 08:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The song received generally positive reviews from music critics, with several of them praising the production → Music critics received "Fire" with positive reviews, with several of them praising the song's production.

Why should it be switched order like this; I've done it the former way round in my other articles and never once been questioned by reviewers? --K. Peake 05:59, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, you can keep it that way. Just mention "Fire" received generally positive reviews from music critics...

Done --K. Peake 08:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Others were complementary towards the lyrical content, while numerous critics positively compared "Fire" to Kid Cudi's earlier works → Some were complementary towards the lyrical content, while others positively compared the song to Kid Cudi's earlier works

Shouldn't the word critics be used in the second part of the sentence because it is the only time in the sentence? --K. Peake 05:59, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, use critics per your reasoning.

Done --K. Peake 08:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It peaked at number 67 on the US Billboard Hot 100, alongside charting in Australia, Canada, Ireland, and Slovakia → Following the release of Kids See Ghosts, it peaked at number 67 on the US Billboard Hot 100, alongside charting in Australia, Canada, Ireland, and Slovakia.

~~This is too much context for the lead. --K. Peake 05:59, 21 December 2020 (UTC)~~[reply]

At the Camp Flog Gnaw Carnival in 2018, Kids See Ghosts performed the song while in an illuminated transparent box → In 2018, Kids See Ghosts performed the song at the Camp Flog Gnaw Carnival (Since this is giving too much detail about the performance that should perhaps be saved for the body per MOS:LEAD.)

Done --K. Peake 08:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Background

Image looks great.
"On April 19, 2018, Kanye West announced a collaborative album with Kid Cudi. The album was revealed as being titled Kids See Ghosts by West, with him setting the release date of June 8, 2018 for it." Can you combine these two sentences?

Done --K. Peake 08:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the part where you talked about West's and Kid Cudi's working relationship, since this is their song, however I feel this part:"Prior to working with Kids See Ghosts on the song, André 3000 provided vocals for "30 Hours" from West's seventh studio album The Life of Pablo in 2016. That same year, André 3000 was featured on the tracks "By Design" and "The Guide" from Kid Cudi's sixth studio album Passion, Pain & Demon Slayin'. BoogzDaBeast contributed production to the compilation album Cruel Summer (2012), which was released under West and Kid Cudi's record label GOOD Music is not really relevant since this doesn't give us much information about how the song was conceived, what kind of idea led to the development of it, etc. However, you are welcome to keep it if you feel so. I would also suggest writing about where the recording took place, who engineered and mixed the track, since that information is available from the booklet.

I added the Andre 3000 info to give background on how a writer and producer became involved with Kids See Ghosts, as this furthers notability of the article rather than only mentioning the duo's background. As for the recording info, is that really needed to be listed out here? --K. Peake 05:59, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's better if you add the recording info, since you are looking into the smaller details. --Ashley yoursmile! 06:06, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done tell me if there is any issues with the prose though --K. Peake 08:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Peake, can you add that recording for the song took place at West Lake Ranch, Jackson Hole, Wyoming? --Ashley yoursmile! 09:12, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ashleyyoursmile I have done that now, pass? --K. Peake 10:02, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Composition and lyrics

"Fire" was noted as being a rock-influenced track by a number of music journalists → "Fire" was described as a rock-influenced track in press reviews, since I feel the current wording reads awkward

Done --K. Peake 08:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Though not needed, but would you like to add an audio sample?

Not really, as a large enough amount of West's articles already have audio samples, definitely --K. Peake 08:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That's okay. --Ashley yoursmile! 09:12, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Release and promotion

Kids See Ghosts also danced and for the performance, they were inside a transparent box - this sentence reads weird, can you re-phrase it?

Done if this reads well? --K. Peake 08:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

better now. --Ashley yoursmile! 09:13, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Reception

Critical reception very well-written, no issues found
After the release of Kids See Ghosts, → Following the release of Kids See Ghosts,
In Australia, the track debuted → In Australia, the song debuted, since you've used "track" just before and you're using it in the next line

Done --K. Peake 08:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Credits and personnel

Great job

Charts

Looks great

References

Copyvio score good at 19.4%.
All references archived and good

External links

Great

Overall review

Kyle Peake, the article is definitely in good shape. After the comments are addressed, I will be happy to pass the article. Ashley yoursmile! 08:28, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ashleyyoursmile Covered everything, will you pass this article now? --K. Peake 08:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Kyle Peake, everything looks good here. I am passing this. Merry Christmas and a very Happy New Year. --Ashley yoursmile! 10:08, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.