Talk:François Vatel

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"Contrary to the way he is depicted in the movie, mooning over a lady from Louis XIV´s glamorous court, Vatel preferred boys. (Cecilia Ruiz de Ríos, Nicaraguan historian.)"

This is the first time I've heard this particular statement. Is there another reliable source apart from Cecilia Ruiz de Ríos' webpage (I loved her article on "LADYKILLER POR EXCELENCIA: ADOLFO HITLER")?

21:06, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Likewise, I have not heard this. Unless anyone has a actual reference by a contemporary, or some well documented historical scholarship, this statement should be removed. --66.45.58.228 20:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Chantilly Cream

There are several legends regarding the invention of this cream. There is a castle near Paris called Vaux Le Vicomte , where Vatel used to work before going to Chantilly, and where we learn that the cream was invented there, for a party thrown by Fouquet to impress the king.

Later, when Vatel served the cream on Chantilly castle, the king would have named it "Chantilly Cream".

Nelbr 16:42, 16 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Sic. The reputation of Vatel as a chef seems to be based on not knowing the difference betwen a maître d'hôtel (Vatel's position) and a chef de cuisine. So the story of the "origin" of Crème Chantilly is perhaps founded on historicising whipped cream. The "death date" in the article is the date of Mme de Sevigné's letter reporting the suicide. The pseudohistory of cooking is malarkey farci. Here's a better start for Vatel.--Wetman 08:34, 26 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]