Talk:GWR 3200 Class

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Restoration[edit]

Can you please return Earl of Berkeley to service and into the original Great Western Green Livery as No. 9017? It hasn't been to Scotland every since City of Truro has been to Scotland. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.18.70.168 (talk) 18:30, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Numbering[edit]

Iain Bell, please check the recently-added table. Showing 3265 as "renumbeed 3265 in 1946" must be an error, they are the same numbers. I don't presently have access to sources, but I think that the first production batch began at 3201, with 3200 reserved for 3265. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 13:27, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Typo fixed. Although I am beginning to wonder if 3265/9065 was always considered a Duke, as several other survivors of that class were also renumbered into the 90xx block. — Iain Bell (talk) 21:00, 23 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

In 1946, the GWR initiated a renumbering scheme (which wasn't completed until about 1951), but unlike the LNER's scheme of that year (which allotted new numbers to all locomotives bar three) it was only partial, intended mainly to tidy up some of the classes inherited from Welsh railways, some of which had widely-scattered numbers, but also to clear some blocks of 100 numbers for new construction. The 2251 class 0-6-0 had been numbered 2251-2299 and 2200-2250, and with more on order numbers would be needed for the next Lot - so according to GWR tradition (since the 1912 renumbering, anyway), further members of that class should be given numbers where the second digit was also 2. Several such blocks were available, never having been used: 6200-6299, 8200-8299, 9200-9299, but instead the GWR decided to move the 3200s and the surviving Dukes (of which there were only about ten left) into the 9000-9099 block, retaining the last two digits, thus releasing 3200-3299 for more 2251s. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 11:08, 28 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]