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Name

Isn't the german cross also a name for the sign of German Bundeswehr? Like the sign right of the 98 here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Euro_luftwaffe.jpg

The Bundeswehr uses the Iron Cross as its official symbol. You are referring perhaps to the Black Cross. The Iron Cross and the Black Cross are both descended from the cross of the Teutonic Knights, but I can't see the Bundeswehr calling its symbol by the name of a Nazi order. --84.58.216.182 01:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Date

Could someone please point me to the Reichsgesetzblatt that inaugurates the German Cross in Gold? Many references I find point to 28 September 1941 as the date is was inaugurated. However when searching the archives near this date or on this date I only find two legislations RGBl. I S 613 pertaining to the second change to Iron Cross (adding the Swords and Diamonds), and RGBl. I S 614 referring to the War Merit Cross. Neither of both legislations fit to the German Cross in Gold.MisterBee1966 10:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hi MisterBee

The cross was created on 16 November 1941.While writing the Hans-Joachim Marseille article I came across a good source (his biography) that quoted this date. Marseille was among the first to receive this award on 1 December '41.

Are you confusing this with the German cross in silver? That award was created on the 28th September 1941. The 'cross' in Gold came afterwards.

Dapi89 18:02, 2 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Gaudy?

Isn't saying that it had a "rather gaudy design" a bit un-NPOV? -- MacAddct  1984 ^{(talk  contribs)} 15:25, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree.--WooteleF (talk) 12:57, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it was considered gaudy by some German soldiers. I'll have to figure out which book I read it in, but in an officer's war memoirs he states the soldiers referred to it as "Hitler's Fried Egg". Repeter (talk) 17:43, 8 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have read about this gaudiness and the nicknames it acquired in a number of places, most notably in Antony Beevor's book, Berlin: The Downfall 1945. There are also a few web sources, as well, such as this one, this one, and this one. Cyberherbalist (talk) 05:48, 9 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]