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Regarding Demographics Section

The paragraph below that is taken from the section of demographics regarding the topic of immigration in Germany illustrates the potential for confusion when the terms 'migrants' and 'refugees' are used interchangeably:

'After the United States, Germany is the second-most popular immigration destination in the world. In 2015, following the 2015 refugee crisis, the Population Division of the United Nations Department of Economic and Social Affairs listed Germany as host to the second-highest number of international migrants worldwide, about 5% or 12 million of all 244 million migrants. Refugee crises have resulted in substantial population increases.'

This conflation is problematic as it does not address the distinctions between legal and humanitarian statuses of refugees and migrants, and uses them as though they signify the same concept. 78.179.1.222 (talk) 00:49, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

Refugees are a subcategory of migrants; what this section seems to suggest is that this subgroup has driven an overall rise in immigration rates. Do you have sourcing to suggest otherwise? Nikkimaria (talk) 01:21, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

I think what IP is objecting to is that the statement 'Refugee crises have resulted in substantial population increases.' is an unsourced addition, and editorializing by whomever added it in. I concur. JackTheSecond (talk) 01:59, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

The claim appears to be supported by the following source, and could be supported by additional sources if necessary. What leads you to believe it is editorializing? Nikkimaria (talk) 02:41, 18 March 2024 (UTC)

To resolve this issue and try to reach a consensus, let's see:

1- "Migrants" means someone who changes residence and/or condition

2- "Refugees" means someone who are im a refuge, that is, protected by something or someone.

Therefore, I really don't think these two terms are perfectly synonyms, however, maybe in a philosophical context, they may appear to be the same in some yet unstudied way, it's a hypothesis, but it can make sense, anyway, that's a good subject, although I agree that, in an objective context, they are in fact not synonymous, but nothing prevents a migrant can be refugee. 177.105.90.20 (talk) 20:03, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

Why isn’t Bonn included in the capitals? As most government buildings are still located there even after reunification

Put Bonn

as the capital as not many people knew it was the capital of west Germany, and many government buildings are still located there Usydydjwhxyxhx (talk) 18:15, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Bonn is not listed as the capital because it is not the capital - that's an official designation, not based on where government buildings are located. Nikkimaria (talk) 18:17, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Yeah, certainly! I've google for Germany cities, and Bonn was described just as "City" properly, and not as capital, I have two hypotheses:

1- Bonn is not a capital

2- Bonn is a capital, but Google is misguiding (what I honestly think not).

Any counter-argue? 177.105.90.20 (talk) 20:14, 25 May 2024 (UTC)