Talk:Gibbet Moor
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[edit]- The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was: withdrawn by nominator, closed by SL93 (talk) 17:59, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
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... that Gibbet Moor is where the last person was gibbeted alive in England? Priestley, Samantha (2020-03-30). The History of Gibbeting: Britain's Most Brutal Punishment. Pen and Sword History. ISBN 978-1-5267-5521-6.- ALT1:
... that Gibbet Moor is where the last person was gibbeted alive in England?Priestley, Samantha (2020-03-30). The History of Gibbeting: Britain's Most Brutal Punishment. Pen and Sword History. pp. 7–9. ISBN 978-1-5267-5521-6.- ALT1a: ... that Gibbet Moor is where the last person was supposed to have been gibbeted alive in England?
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Created by Douglal (talk). Self-nominated at 16:50, 24 August 2020 (UTC).
Article is new, long enough, well-written, neutral, free of copyvio as far as I can detect, and interesting. The hook is interesting, cited to the (offline, AGF) source. I'd suggest that you link to gibbet (like this: ...last person was gibbeted alive...). GirthSummit (blether) 13:58, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
Good to go based on ALT1 GirthSummit (blether) 14:35, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I came by to promote this. The book ref needs page numbers. I'm wondering if the hook fact can be verified by another reliable source; this one seems kind of story-ish and doesn't explicitly state that it was the last gibbeting alive in England. Yoninah (talk) 08:48, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Yoninah Hi, thanks for your interest and advice. I have added the page numbers. The book's text states "This, then, was the last man to be gibbeted alive in England..." but goes on to acknowledge that it is based on local oral history and not on actual document records from the time. Therefore I have changed the hook to say 'supposed'. Unfortunately I don't have access to the author's bibliography to check her own sources. However the same account is given in Geoffrey Sadler's 2003 book Foul Deeds & Suspicious Deaths In & Around Chesterfield, which has listed sources. Douglal (talk) 09:35, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Douglal: Please do not edit over existing hooks; it makes it impossible for other editors and promoters to follow the discussion. I have renamed your new hook ALT1a.
- Frankly, this disclaimer takes away all the hookiness. Yoninah (talk) 09:40, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Yoninah, is this reapproved? Just checking to make sure VincentLUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 18:27, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Vincent60030: I think a new hook should be suggested. I have struck ALT1 for being inaccurate. ALT1 seems uncertain. Yoninah (talk) 17:54, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
- I am out of ideas. Douglal do you have any to suggest? VincentLUFan (talk) (Kenton!) 10:49, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks to you all for reviewing this nomination. To be honest it is much more hassle than it's worth though. I've enjoyed writing about 100 articles but I won't bother with nominating any in future. Douglal (talk) 15:36, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Douglal: Actually, DYK brings your new articles to an audience of thousands, rather than the handful of readers who come across them on a daily basis. But if you wish to withdraw this nomination, please let us know. BTW, the article could use some restructuring, with a proper lead that states the subject's notability and subsections which help the reader navigate all this prose. Yoninah (talk) 15:40, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- Hi Yoninah. Yes I realise that but I'm more intersted in creating interesting articles than chasing an audience. DYK is all rather fiddly and I found it a bit tedious to be honest. I admire you all for sticking with it. I don't share your patience. Cheers, Douglal (talk) 15:48, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
OK. Marking this nomination for closure as unsuccessful. Yoninah (talk) 15:56, 21 September 2020 (UTC)