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Why not combine this article with [Chav]? Most of the information is the same, we can dedicate a new paragraph on the Chav page for Gopniks, but I don't see why we need a new article for it. (talk) 19:19, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

  • They are different subcultures. Netrat (talk) 10:09, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
    • They as very familiar in many aspects, but I still insist that they are different. Pancakes and crepes are very familiar, but should be merge them in one article? Netrat (talk) 14:50, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
  • I am Russian, I am grew with Gopnik's, and I can too say that its different subcultures —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 23:22, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

You could put it the other way around - why not put Chav article inside of Gopnik? Now you see. Anyway, these are somewhat similar but actually different subcultures so no need to merge. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 12:20, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Gopniks have their specific history and behavior based on Soviet prisons manners. btw picture is good. They sit just like that guy. Even if there's a bench they will break it first and then sit like that —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 01:04, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Вы чо такие дерзкие??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 18:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

The squatting thing?[edit]

Should there be a reference to this squatting thing which appears to be peculiar to the gopnik? It's not something I'm aware of in either chav or ned behaviour. WeeJimmyFaeGorgie (talk) 09:38, 9 July 2011 (UTC)

The squatting thing must be included. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alcibiades979 (talkcontribs) 17:47, 10 October 2015 (UTC)

It is. - üser:Altenmann >t 05:58, 12 October 2015 (UTC)

>"at the pictures" (на карташах) : It's not about 'pictures'. "Карташи" is another way to say "корточки" или "корты".

>Russian prison culture to avoid sitting on the cold ground : It's not about cold only, it's about dirt and mud too. Also, some places may be marked as 'unclean', and if one sits there, he becomes a 'rooster'. So one cannot put his butt wherever he wants, and has to squat.


"Gob-stop" is a word from London's slang of 1800-1820. A little bit later it came to Russian as "gop-stop". [b] became [p] due to Russian language peculiarities of pronunciation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aussiebuck (talkcontribs) 14:35, 1 May 2012 (UTC)


Woo-Hoo! This article is amazing. I never expect to find something like this in English Wiki. And yes, photo is wonderful and very authentic, ROFL. You make my day, thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by (talk) 13:44, 4 October 2013 (UTC)