Talk:Guardian First Book Award

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Split into two?

I think that this would be better as two articles for Guardian First Book Award and Guardian Fiction Prize because the definition of the two awards is so different. Comments? --JBellis 17:27, 4 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

(Five years later) Yes, this should be split or radically transformed. "Oldest and best established" is silly in this context.

Furthermore, the History is mainly process. The genuine history amounts to identifying the inaugural sponsor The Guardian, year 1965, and prize 200 guineas/210 pounds. And mis-representing the 1999 change as inclusion of nonfiction. --P64 (talk) 15:46, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, a split would also untangle the messy process of redirecting all the links to this page on the pages of the winning novels pre-1999 to the bottom section, and all these links already point to the correct pages [which are currently just redirects]. I'm going to go ahead and split 'em --Kironorik (talk) 18:36, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GF Award and GF Prize. Reading the three 1999 Guardian articles alone (formally cited here since my major revision yesterday), I did not learn whether GF Award or GF Prize was the official name at that time.

Yet I did go ahead and copy some categories from this article to the redirect Guardian Fiction Prize, and create Talk:Guardian Fiction Prize (redirect class). I did not revise Guardian Fiction Award or create Talk:Guardian Fiction Award. If the latter becomes the primary article/list and Guardian Fiction Prize remains a redirect.

--P64 (talk) 19:22, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Sources

maybe useful (I might extend this list directly rather than reply to it)

"Fiction resurgent ..." (shortlist includes four fiction, one non-fic) "The Guardian first book award began 10 years ago, replacing the Guardian fiction prize created in 1965."

Another:(2004)

First and foremost

The Guardian's first book award was established in 1999 to reward the finest new literary talent with a £10,000 prize for an author's first book. Now in its sixth year, the award is open to writing across all genres. It is unique among book awards as debut works of fiction are judged alongside those of non-fiction."

--P64 (talk) 20:41, 15 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

--P64 (talk) 22:24, 17 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2013

"Enter the Guardian first book award 2013". "Submissions are now open for publishers to enter the Guardian first book award 2013. The closing date is midnight Friday 31 May 2013." guardian.co.uk 16 April 2013

--P64 (talk) 01:54, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Shortlists 1999, 2000

During major revision yesterday I located the 1999 and 2000 shortlists (via the two top pages or directories for the newspaper's annual coverage, now listed in the footer). I added the listings to Guardian First Book Award#Winners and shortlists by copy-and-paste from newspaper prose or quasi-prose. So the listings need re-format.

Just now I stripped one level of bulleting from the entire list, all bulleting from 1999 to 2002. Comments solicited.

(Good night) --P64 (talk) 19:45, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]