Talk:Gunnilbo socken
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[edit]It is a bit unclear how each of the following sections relate to the parish. For instance, were there both vicars and chaplains of the church?
List of Kyrkoherdar (Vicars)
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List of Comministrar (Chaplains)
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What is the list of villages? How does it relate to this specific article?
If it's meant to be a list of nearby villages, it should likely focus on the ones that are closest to the village.
Villages (Ortnamn)
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There are no sources for this information - and there isn't corresponding information in the Swedish article about the parish or the church for any of this information.--CaroleHenson (talk) 12:22, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- The page author did supply the following two sources:
- Westerås Stifts Herdaminne by Joh. Fr. Muncktell
- Bruno Holmbergs anteckningar om hyttor och hammare.
The first is a reproduction of a 19th-century book and the articles the same editor created on the various vicars all refer to it in plain text, so it is presumably where their biographies and dates of incumbency are taken from. The second may be the source of the list of villages (hamlets may be more accurate). Yngvadottir (talk) 15:08, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- Yngvadottir, Excellent, thanks! I've put back the vicars and chaplains.
- Is the list of villages meant to be a list of nearby villages? Are some of these considered to be villages within Gunnilbo (like Farna)?
- It seems like a long list to be within Gunnilbo - except Farna. What villages should be included and what is the context. Thanks so much for shedding light on this!!!!--18:15, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- I did some searching in sv.wikipedia, which I believe substantiates my hunch: sv:Kedjebo and sv:Killinghammar both say they are hammarområde, which I'm going to make a guess is an iron foundry location. Hyttor in the source title refers, I believe, to an extraction location. So these were mining/ore processing settlements, or perhaps in some instances permanent settlements, but very small - hamlets rather than villages. The names of the first two simply mean East and West Gunnilbo. A rural parish encompassing a number of very small settlements, some of which may no longer exist. However, I hope the editor himself will respond after seeing your note on his talk page, and I'm pinging Bishonen for a check of my tentative translations. Yngvadottir (talk) 19:52, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- Excellent detective work! I think that makes 1) Östra Gunnilbo (Österbo), 2) Väster Gunnilbo, 3) Lilla Färna, 4) Färna bruk and 5) Bockhammars bruk all mining sites based upon your insight and info from a source for the article. It's also much appreciated your reaching out for assistance with translation! It's very helpful!--CaroleHenson (talk) 20:00, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
Gunnilbo River
[edit]There is some interesting information in this pdf file about the Gunnilbo River, its having been dammed for mining enterprises and its current state. I assume that this is the tributary that slips in behind the Gunnilbo Church from the Farna area, but I couldn't find anything conclusive to verify its location.
Does anyone know the location of the Gunnilbo River?--CaroleHenson (talk) 21:18, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- Search for the Swedish name "Gunnilboån". How about this map at openstreetmap? One can also make it out on the Google Maps satellite images. Where one can't see the somewhat meandering dark line of the water, there is a line of trees that seem to stand along the river. --Hegvald (talk) 22:38, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
- Excellent, thanks! That's where I thought it was, great to have the confirmation.--CaroleHenson (talk) 23:38, 24 May 2014 (UTC)