Talk:Hail spike

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Suggest {merge} into Weather Radar article

This orphan seems perfect for inclusion into Weather radar, which is the only article linking here. Its section #Multiple reflections would thereby gain a subsection with two paragraphs and one image. "Three body scatter spike" (TBSS) is seems an otherwise obscure and specific reference not at all likely to be found outside this topic. I propose merging TBSS into Weather Radar, and have placed a tag on each page accordingly. — VoxLuna ☾ ^orbit_land 19:45, 9 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Against : The three body scatter article was created to expand the section on multiple reflections of the weather radar article by Tyler10M. Contrary to VoxLuna, I consider that it could be linked to many articles related to the radar article, including hail articles, as this apply to much more than weather. It could be expanded too. I would tend to be against the merge and I added links to it so it is not an orphan anymore. Pierre cb (talk) 04:09, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, User:Tyler10M appears to no longer edit under that name as of late 2008, so I don't expect a response to his talk page notice. I came across this topic while viewing a TWDR course at NWS, and, at the time, a merge seemed a good idea. But I am not an expert, so I defer to your vigorous defense; as well, I agree with your rationale that other articles could benefit from TBSS being a separate entity. I'll close my suggestion on 17 January -- in order to give this a proper vote -- and remove the {merge} tags. Thanks for your input. — VoxLuna ☾ ^orbit_land 08:46, 14 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Issues

I went to this article for an explanation of the subject, and found it's either completely wrong or explains itself in a really roundabout way. The NWS provides a much easier to understand definition of a TBSS, which I suggest the article be based off if it's ever rewritten. Some more references and examples of occurrences would be nice as well. Juliancolton (talk) 19:20, 24 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The NWS explanation is incomplete and partially misleading. The article has to emphasize the time delay that cause the hail echoe to be behind the thunderstorm echoe : multiple reflections including ground reflections. The NWS definiton talks about only bouncing from hail stone to hail stones, which happens, but this does not cause in general enough time delay to be noticable because the path between the hail stones is too small from one another. Here is a reference from Dr Lemon, one of the leading expert in the field of weather radar. I've just noticed that the external link given in the article a similar explanation that you might want to have a look at. Pierre cb (talk) 03:18, 25 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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