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Microsoft-only?[edit]

Are you sure Handheld PC is a Microsoft-only term? I'm fairly sure there have been Linux-based handheld PCs.--ArbiterOne 07:46, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

It is a generic term used that is picked up in different circles. You even find Palm OS users calling their devices Handheld PC's. In the scope of the article I wrote originally I am referring to the Microsoft Trademark device. The straight dictionary definition of a Handheld PC is of course a PC which fits in your Hand. You could call a Palm OS device a Pocket PC because it's a PC that fits into your Pocket if you wished, but I doubt that many would do this. .--C:Amie 14:36, 08 September 2005 (UTC)
See Template talk:Computer sizes#Encyclopedic terms vs. brand names User:ScotXWt@lk 17:07, 20 June 2014 (UTC)

Article's too Microsoft centric[edit]

The term handheld PC/palmtop goes way back to the 1980's long before MS had involvement in making a handheld PC. If i remember correctly, I believe the term palmtop was the more common term way back then with handheld PC being the more common term today. Since their have been various handheld PC and palmtop devices that used non-MS operating systems such as Linux and Palm OS, the article should be rewritten to first deal with the terms handheld PC and palmtop as their apply to palm-sized computing devices, including their history. Then we can address how MS uses the term and describe handheld PC's that follow Microsoft's specifications. Finely, we should explain how the term handheld PC and palmtop have been used to describe PDA's too, and what if any distinctions have been made between PDA's and heldheld PC's/palmtops. --Cab88 22:03, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Reverted 86.139.21.31's changes[edit]

86.139.21.31 recently edited the article, and removed references to Handheld PC, and changed to palmtop, and changed Windows CE to XP, I reverted their changes... If anyone disagrees, feel free to reply here... --Illyria05-- 17:44, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

What are typical screen sizes of a handheld PC?[edit]

What are typical screen sizes of a handheld PC? My research pretty much divides mobile computers up into these categories:

  • Cell phone – typically around 2.6" (e.g. Nokia N95)
  • iPhone – 3.5"
  • Handheld PC – ~2.8-3.8"; runs Windows CE, or Windows Mobile, etc.; for instance HP iPAQ
  • UMPC/MID – ~5-6" screen size, sometimes a bit bigger (e.g. Psion Series 7 was 7.7")
  • Subnotebooks – 10.4" or less, and runs full version of Windows
  • Laptops – 12-17"

It seems like there is a lot of overlapping terminology out there. We have terms like Pocket PC, handheld PC, that seem to basically mean the same thing. StrengthOfNations (talk) 14:12, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Handheld PCs are clamshells with a keyboard, while Pocket PCs don't have folding keyboards. Anarchist42 (talk) 22:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Electronic Transltor[edit]

Do you guys think Electronic Translator are HandHeld PC. I think most North Americans and Europe don't usually use these products. They are very popular in Asian countries (espcially in China, Taiwan, Korea, Japan). They were first design to assist people who want to learn english, and because they are design for academic purposes, many useful applications gradually get integrated. Such of these applications incldue

Overview

  • Dictionary (Oxford)
  • Encyclopedia (Cambridge)
  • Scentific & Graphing Calculator
  • Metric Calculations convertor (weight, length, pressure, temperture...etc.)

Learning

  • video lectures
  • animation lectures
  • comic format (communication)
  • listening

Entertainment

  • listening to podcasts
  • Mindboggling games
  • Zodiac

Contacts

  • Notebook / Wordpad
  • Calendar

Otherbooks

  • eBook (PCMIA cards) --- kind of like plug-ins

e.g. CD-828 Pro

--Ramu50 (talk) 20:15, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

What's the difference from subnotebook?[edit]

What is the diff between Handheld PC and subnotebook? --KpoT (talk) 01:06, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Merger proposal[edit]

This article should be merged with Personal digital assistant due to the developmental roots of the technology. Both articles relate to Palmtop computers. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT PRAISE GOOD WORKS 16:13, 1 September 2010 (UTC)

I oppose and suggest rewriting the article to cover only devices that are Handheld PC compliant and possibly also Windows CE editions designed to work on Handheld PCs. I've never heard the phrase "Handheld PC" as a generic term (handheld yes, but never "Handheld PC"). We also have Palm-size PC and Pocket PC and Handheld PC should remain the third. There should be a Definition section as in the Pocket PC article, that clearly states, that this is only about the MS Specification and possibly something like 'for generic handheld devices see the Personal digital assistant article. GL1zdA (talk) 14:57, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
I don't think evolutionary differences is justification for separate articles. But you are welcome to rewrite and give it a shot, I just don't think there's enough difference to warrant separate articles. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT PRAISE GOOD WORKS 11:41, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
I'll try to rewrite the article starting with things found in InfoWorld: http://www.google.com/search?hl=pl&tbs=bks%3A1%2Cbkms%3A1168684103302644050&q=%22handheld+pc%22&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai= - the number of Windows CE Handheld PCs articles is an order of magnitude larger than other handheld PCs, so I think it's justified. I'll expand the Windows CE handheld PCs to finally make it the main article.GL1zdA (talk) 13:42, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Why does "palmtop computer" redirect here?[edit]

Why does "palmtop computer" (I think a largely out-of-use term for any handheld computer, today's smartphones would probably fit the classic definition) redirect here? And if this article is specific to WinCE devices, why doesn't it say so in the intro, instead of not switching to be solely about that until the main body of the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.210.74.14 (talk) 19:05, 11 February 2014 (UTC)

There's a merger possible somewhere[edit]

Palmtops and UMPC seem smaller than Handhelds, while handheld PC is an old term for what is essentially a netbook. All of these are Subnotebooks. Yet for some reason Palmtop computer redirects here while Palmtop PC is a separate article. It seems these are just marketing terms for devices of the same form factor. If that all it is, this should be made clear that this is marketing, and not technically a form factor, which is what this article says now. This article also states that they were discontinued in the early 2010s, which is when they were actually already marketed as Netbooks, so these aren't names for separate generations of the same device form-factor either. I think the best solution here is merge Palmtop and Handheld PC for the historical devices, also mention newer devices like netbooks and chromebooks. But also keep the Netbook article. --Entlantian (talk) 10:35, 8 April 2015 (UTC)