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50 Cent's Black Magic

shouldn't it be mentioned? i mean, 50's a big artist around the world n hes makin a whole hip house album —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.177.72.17 (talk) 11:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Notable tracks

I'm of the opinion that these list should be filled with "real" hip house. Songs like "Sexy bitch" are pop house, not hip house, because there are not the typical parts.--188.100.87.240 (talk) 18:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Difference between Hip House and House rap

There are differences between Hip House and House rap. Especially the usage of the "Think" break is a special element of Hip House. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.100.184.18 (talk) 09:09, 27 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Is there independent documentation of this opinion? Mickeymephistopheles (talk) 04:09, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Difference between Modern Hip House and Classic/oldskool Hip House

There are numerous song that have been released in the past few years that classify the genre as house, and sometimes Hip House. Now There are similarities but it is totally different from old house. This page is meant to be for old house am I right?

Is ""Bahaus Musique" - De Signer" a well known house song? I have only found a few version online and they sound very modern. Thomas Slee (talk) 22:20, 16 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

RfC: Is hip house a present day trend?

1. Should this article contain a section about the contemporary artists which it currently mentions?

2. Should "hip house" be used as a genre for contemporary artists making music combining hip hop and electronic dance music? (examples which currently do: Forever (Wolfgang Gartner and will.i.am song), Party Rock Anthem, Like a G6) RoseCherry64 (talk) 21:17, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

I removed the "Hip house in the present day" section, which didn't contain any citations at the time. It was re-added with dubious citations for some of these artists. The problem are that all of these are either casual mentions of the term and with one exception, from unreliable sources.

1. "Together Festival Featuring LMFAO, Lil Jon and DJ Afrojack". bk.asia-city.com.

This is from a mention of a festival event in Bangkok. Consider that this is a group with very major hits.

2. "The Best Hip House DJs". Ranker.

This is user-generated content.

3. dead link?

4. "Azealia Banks 1991". exclaim.ca.

Probably the only credible source. However, note the term "hip-house revisionist".

However, hip house is constantly referred to as a dead and short lived sound in music writing. Consider these quotes, emphasis added by me.

"Given its affinity for both electronic music and hip-hop, Detroit was a prime breeding ground for the short-lived 'hip-house' sound, which combined accelerated rapping with up tempo dance beats."^[1]

"Is hip house dead? No. The Black Eyed Peas for the last three, four, five years have been doing hip house – they just don't call it that. Pitbull, his career is hip house – they just don't call it that. Listen to the radio, listen to how many records have a four-to-the-floor beat to it. Just pay attention." - Tyree Cooper^[2]

"Many 1990s EDM artists (such as the Chemical Brothers, or more obliquely, Autechre) acknowledged the importance of hip hop in their musical upbringing. This influence is most readily seen perhaps in the sample-based UK house productions circa 1987 and the short-lived trend for "hip-house" in the late 1980s. And whilst much rap, when tending to slower tempi and lyrical content, diversified away from club dance, the inter-flow of production trends has continued to this day."^[3] RoseCherry64 (talk) 21:17, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ Rubin, Mike (October 10, 2013). "The 411 On The 313: A Brief History of Detroit Hip-Hop". Complex. Retrieved October 24, 2018.
^ Mlynar, Philip (May 2, 2016). "Hip House: An Oral History". Red Bull Music Academy. Retrieved October 24, 2018.
^ Collins, Nick; Schedel, Margaret; Wilson, Scott (2013). Electronic Music. Cambridge University Press. p. 105.

Survey

No and no — There's very, very little mention of this term referring to present day popular music — and it would be IMO fringe to use it as a term for anything that fuses dance music with house, since it is an established term. RoseCherry64 (talk) 21:17, 24 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Rubin, Mike (October 10, 2013). "The 411 On The 313: A Brief History of Detroit Hip-Hop". Complex. Retrieved October 24, 2018.

[2] Mlynar, Philip (May 2, 2016). "Hip House: An Oral History". Red Bull Music Academy. Retrieved October 24, 2018.

[3] Collins, Nick; Schedel, Margaret; Wilson, Scott (2013). Electronic Music. Cambridge University Press. p. 105.

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