Talk:Hulk (Ultimate Marvel character)

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This article was nominated for deletion on 31 July 2023. The result of the discussion was merge.

Merger[edit]

Please don't merge this...the characters are distinctly different, and the reference links make merging unnecessary.

I agree don't merge this.--GingerM 15:27, 18 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

While I know nothing more than what I've read here, they seem to be different characters; or at least, different enough to merit separate pages.

I agree -- please don't merge. the point of the "Ultimate" versions of Marvel characters (like Ultimate X-Men and Ultimate Spider-Man as well) is that they have newly re-imagined the origins and histories of classic (read: old) characters. Therefore, to fold (classic) Hulk and Ultimate Hulk together would be to destroy the separate continuity that is the whole point of the Ultimate story-lines. Ayed 13:55, 15 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This topic is not up for discussion here, as it is following a consensus made at Wikiproject Comics. To discuss, please read and comment here at the disscussion page. --Jamdav86 15:19, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Then I'll remove the merger tag :) rst20xx 14:28, 23 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wolverine being ripped in half[edit]

(throwing the notion that his skeleton is indesstructable out the window),

wrong! that was his joints that still with enough force can be pulled out if his joints were laced with adamantium he could not move —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:{{{1}}}|{{{1}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{1}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{1}}}|contribs]])

I agree it is ludicrous to suggest that because he was torn apart at the joints that it means the adimantium is any less strong.

There's no evidence to really suggest that Adamantium, in the Ultimate Marvel Universe, has the same durability as Adamantium in the mainstream Marvel Universe. They're two seperate realities, so the writers can pretty much do whatever they wish to do, even ignore decades of accepted canon because they have a whole new universe to tinker with. As to Adamantium's durability in the UMU, there's something that we've overlooked or forgotten about. During the first apppearance of Ultimate Sabretooth, it was revealed that one of the four Adamantium claws implanted in his left forearm was broken. In the section of the Sabretooth article devoted to the Ultimate Marvel incarnation, you can see the broken claw clearly if you click on the picture. Now, how it was broken is something that's never been revealed, or really even been brought up as far as I know, but it's broken so these incidents have to raise at least some questions reguarding the Adamantium in the UMU as being "unbreakable". Odin's Beard

I'm not trying to keep this whole debate raging, but we've got to stop adding our own personal opinions and calling them facts. We don't know the story behind Wolverine being ripped in half. I agree that it probably has something to do with his joints but that's just a guess, just speculation at this point. Until, or unless, Marvel publishes something that explains it, then we have to leave it out. Odin's Beard 23:43, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

On a separate note it should be stated that ultimate Hulk is far weaker than normal Hulk. According to wizard magazine he can only lift about 18 tons where normal Hulk lifts well over 100 tons.

According to the Marvel Handbooks, the Ultimate Hulk is capable of lifting well in excess of 100 tons and his strength does increase with rage. I remember reading the article in Wizard Magazine, but I don't agree with nor accept it. If anyone has ever seen the Ultimate Hulk in any of his comic appearances, he's demonstrated that he can certainly lift more than 18 tons. Odin's Beard

Also someone wrote "Ultimate Marvel Team-Up, written by Brian Michael Bendis and drawn by Phil Hester, it is generally considered to be out of continuity due to conflicting designs and characters."

This needs to be changed because in the second issue of the ultimates the incident that occurred in the Ultimate Marvel Team-Up issues is shown in flashbacks during Banners conversation with Nick Fury. Later the hulk is gray and his personality is different because banner mixed some of Captain Americas blood in the hulk serum. So really the conflicting characters is a result of events in the story.

Leon Evelake 06:08, 10 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Just as a side note, in regards to Hulk pulling Wolverine apart: IMO, it has to be an issue with his joints. In the first issue of Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk, Betty Ross mentions to Wolverine that she's curious about his joints in relation to his skeleton. Also, I would think that if Wolverine's soft tissues (ligaments, tendons, etc.) had been infused with adamantium, then they would become as rigid as his bones, which would make motion impossible. Thus, it seems likely that when Wolverine was torn in two, his spine separated between two vertebrae. Just a thought. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 17:13, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Still speculation. Understandable, but speculation. --Newt ΨΦ 17:46, 13 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Clarify Sentence[edit]

Banner transformed into a grey-skinned monster that expressed Banner's dark side, his id unleashed.

The last part "id unleashed" doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me, can someone at least explain this to me?Kidney Stone 03:07, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I just linked id, that should clarify it enough, no? --Rocketgoat 03:24, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hulk and Ultimate Hulk[edit]

These are different pages, but they make almost no seperate mention of each other. Is the Ultimate Hulk stronger than the "regular" Hulk, or are they just existing in different iterations..? -Zero^Talk 14:55, 9 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Ignore the Wizard Magazine listing on the Ultimate Hulk's strength, it's rubbish. According to the new Marvel Handbooks, the Ultimate Hulk is capable of lifting well over 100 tons just as the mainstream Marvel Universe's Hulk. His strength also increases as he becomes angrier. The Ultimate Hulk hasn't really been around long enough to really compare his strength with the mainstream Hulk. Some people tend to think the Ultimate Hulk might be more powerful due to the whole controversy surrounding Adamantium within the Ultimate Marvel Universe. Adamantium simply may not be as indestructible in the Ultimate Universe as it is in the mainstream Marvel Universe. Since it's a different universe and reality, writers can pretty much do whatever they want to with any character and any prescedent that's been accepted within the mainstream Marvel Universe, including Adamantium's durability. But, I've gone off the subject just a bit. As far as how strong Ultimate Hulk is, there's no reason to believe that he doesn't possess the same potential for practically limitless strength. Odin's Beard

Vegetarian?[edit]

I was reading up on the whole "Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk" scenario and was interested by a certain point. It claims that Banner eats tofurkey and, at one time, transforms after being insulted by a superior. It made me wonder as to whether the Banner personality is a true vegetarian, in contrast to his "cannibal" counterpart. --AWF

That's quite possible. It might be that when Banner learned the Hulk was a cannibal, he became a vegetarian. Have to wait until it's expaned by someone to officially add it though. JQF 00:49, 7 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

He was a vegetarian before he became Hulk, in The Ultimates, after the Hulk kills and eats Herr Kleiser, Bruce states in disgust that he still feels the taste of blood at the back of his throat and he had been a vegetarian for 15 years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.21.173.189 (talk) 22:21, 14 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Huh?[edit]

"The Hulk proceeded to track down and pursue Betty Ross, the object of Bruce Banner's affection who, because of relationship problems with Banner, was courting the favor of Hollywood film star Freddie Prinze, Jr. that night..."

Source, anyone? 64.241.230.3 17:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I remember the names and situations. I think it's in the first arc of the Ultimates, before the Chitauri. I cannot remember the specific issue though. That's unnecessarily detailed anyway. --Newt ΨΦ 17:48, 25 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Cannabalism[edit]

I removed the inclusion of the Ultimate Hulk eating Kleiser as an example of cannabalism because Kleiser wasn't a human being. Cannabalism means you eat members of your own species. --Darin Wagner 17:56, 11 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]