Talk:Hurrian language
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[edit]Needs material on the mixed Hurro-Semitic language discovered in Syria and the Hurrian colony at -- or creation of -- Jebus/Jerusalem prior to the arrival of the Hebrews.
--- Hello, just got here from the german Wikipedia. In the text it says "tānōšau (<*tān-ōš-af)) "I'm dead".". This section (and maybe the rest of the article also, i only read this part) looks like it was translated from the german entry or vice versa, an in the german entry it says "tānōšau (<*tān-ōš-af) „ich tat (es)“." which translates to "I did (it)" (versus "ich bin tot" "I'm dead"), so maybe this is a translation error committed by the translator? Maybe someone should check it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.232.232.203 (talk) 20:50, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
- I think you're right and have changed it accordingly. The same verb appear in the sample text translated "done" (in the English) and "machte" in the German. Dependent Variable (talk) 03:31, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
"Armenian Mountains" is incorrect
[edit]The Hurrians no cames from "Armenian mountains" . The Armenians (indoeuropean people from Balkans) no lived in "Armenian mountains" before Hurrians (!). Wy and where from the Hurrians came somewhere from "Armenian mountais"? Correct is "SO CALLED ARMENIAN MOUNTAINS". "Armenian Mountains" is Mountains of Hurrites ("People of Morgenland"). The Armenian language is old indoeuropean, and according to all (!) linguists the Hurrian (Hurro-Urartian) language were NON-INDOEUROPEAN (!), non-semitic. But in origin of Armenians match more genes of Hurrites. These Genes haved Kurds, more Jews, Surians, Turks, Iranians. "Armenian mountains" is definition (and name) from later times. Wikipedia really is non "Armeniapedia" whith fully fantastic falsification of Hurrian-Urartian history! Abouth "Subareans"... The Subareans =Hurrians, non other people. The Urartu, Subartu, Mitanni all are were lands of great Hurrian people, of people of NON-INDOEUROPEAN and NON-SEMITIC origin. The aryan (Indo-Aryan) was the hurritized rulling elite in Mitanni. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.24.80.130 (talk) 05:25, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
- Armenian Highlands is an established geographic term. It may be anachronistic for this time, but so are many other geographical terms in descriptions of ancient history – it's simply an unfortunate fact that there are no better terms that are widely known. Often, ancient terms for the regions are not even known. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 20:11, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
Indoeuropean is a term referrred to the language group. It does not define nationality or gene of people, some nationalities had derived language from the other non-related group of people but that does not mean that they became part of that group. There is no studies on the hurrians DNA, all these statements about kurds, jews, etc are misleading. Asatrian (talk) 09:29, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
sources
[edit]Here's a 2007 two-volume book on Hurrian: https://oi.uchicago.edu/sites/oi.uchicago.edu/files/uploads/shared/docs/campbell_dissertation.pdf Here's the Wegner book free online: http://hosting.astro.cornell.edu/~mmhedman/translation/Hurrian_122608_2.pdf 71.178.191.144 (talk) 19:24, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 24 November 2019: Adding a reference to Hurrian Songs when discussing Ugarit in the "Dialects" section
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Add the following reference to the Hurrian songs when discussing Ugarit in the "Dialects" section — specifically, immediately before the sentence "There was also a Hurrian-Akkadian creole, called Nuzi, spoken in the Mitanni provincial capital of Arrapha":
Notable among the material from Ugarit are the roughly 36 Hurrian songs or hymns, the earliest known examples of written music. These mostly fragmentary documents contain Hurrian text along with musical notation, neither of which is clearly understood. The most complete, designated h.6, mentions the goddess Nikkal along with four instances of the root ḫan- "(to bear a) child" in the last line (ḫa-na, ḫa-nu-te-ti, ḫa-nu-ka, ḫa-nu-ku). Seadog Driftwood (talk) 20:50, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
- I'll note that there are a few sources over at Hurrian songs which we could copy over for this. – Thjarkur (talk) 21:02, 25 November 2019 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. SITH (talk) 15:28, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
Comment:: I found the sentence you want X putting immediately before, but it's not clear which reference you want transferring over. SITH (talk) 15:29, 28 November 2019 (UTC)
Kurdos?
[edit]The Huttites, Hurrians, then correspond to a group of those Guti invaders in the 2700-2600 BC, coming from the north, arian (Genotype R). A descendent group of those conquerors were probably too the Hitite. The Hittite King Mursili I (1556–1526 BC (short chronology)) destroyed the Kingdoms of Yamhad and Babilon, but was unable to conserve the regional control, and the place was occupied by Hurritian from the north, forming the Kingdoms of Mitanni and the Kassites (in Babilon). Mitanni was destroyed by the Assyrians; in an Assyrian inscription, King Shattuara II of Hanigalbat is said to have waged war against Shalmaneser I.
Armenian conquer with iron arms destroyed their power base.
--188.171.57.108 (talk) 16:12, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
Tolkien's Black Speech
[edit]It has been suggested by historian Alexandre Nemirovsky that J.R.R. Tolkien based his Black Speech of Mordor on the Hurrian language, in the same way that he based Quenya on Finnish and Sindarin on Welsh, etc. See https://folk.uib.no/hnohf/orkish.htm. Not sure if this should be added to the article or not. Shalom S. (talk) 21:42, 29 March 2023 (UTC)