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Anti Hero?

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How is The Shrike an Anti-hero? It is explicitly a villian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.82.99.214 (talk) 06:08, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article about some random album named after it should be put into the cultural references below, doesn't need its own little bit. Also, of course Shrike is a bloody anti-hero, did you even read the book? Let alone its sequels. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.106.105.98 (talk) 00:26, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. By the end of Book 4, the Shrike is an active protector of the hero Aenea and enemy of the true villains, the TechnoCore. It is an anti-hero because of its brutal methods and questionable motives, though those motives are ultimately revealed to be noble. Sithboy (talk) 00:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Very well then, the Shrike BECOMES an anti-hero, but in Hyperion and the Fall of Hyperion, he is very clearly a villian. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.1.123 (talk) 22:02, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.


Blooper

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Near the beginning there is a mention of Wagner's "Flight of th Valkiries". The correct name is the Ride of the Valkiries. The author probably never saw the opera, otherwise, he couldn't have made such a ridiculous mistake. He probably had Coppola's movie in mind, where the Ride plays as helicopters fly... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.246.186.81 (talk) 17:47, 15 October 2011 (UTC) The result of the move request was: Pages Moved - Hyperion (novel) to Hyperion (Simmons novel), Endymion (Hyperion Cantos) to Endymion (Simmons novel)  Ronhjones  (Talk) 00:15, 16 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Hyperion (novel)Hyperion (Hyperion Cantos) — To disambiguate the connection between these books; To standardize the article titles. DriftingLeaf (talk) 04:50, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

shorten the plot summary

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“This article's plot summary may be too long or excessively detailed. Please help improve it by removing unnecessary details and making it more concise.” -- I totally agree with that. I think shrinking it to one third would be appropriate. But on the other hand I do not want to simply destroy the work somebody did with that excessive detailedness. So how to improve the article and save that part somehow at the same time? Any ideas out there? (Farin12 (talk) 14:15, 3 May 2011 (UTC))[reply]

Be bold! Having others edit your work is the nature of contributing to Wikipedia, so don't worry about hurting anyone's feelings. Cut it as you see fit; others may reinstate some of the content, and over time it will find its equilibrium. Any effort you make will be appreciated. Kafziel Complaint Department: Please take a number 16:30, 3 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

i came from the 'Rise of Endymion' page--that plot summary is also far too long. there should be a "spoiler alert" before it, if nothing else. i don't have time to tackle either plot "summary," and i don't know the books, so not sure i would be a good person to edit them. (plus, i probably won't have to/want to read any of the books after reading the plot "summaries" here.)Colbey84 (talk) 05:04, 25 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]