Talk:If You Had My Love/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: K. Peake (talk · contribs) 20:55, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It is reasonably well written.
a. (prose, spelling, and grammar):

b. (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
a. (reference section):

b. (citations to reliable sources):

c. (OR):

d. (copyvio and plagiarism):
It is broad in its coverage.
a. (major aspects):

b. (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars, etc.:
It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
a. (images are tagged and non-free content have non-free use rationales):

b. (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/fail:

(Criteria marked are unassessed)

This is a large article so will run into tomorrow, yet the review is much due! --K. Peake 20:55, 12 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox and lead

WP:OVERLINK of Jennifer Lopez under songwriters
Re-arrange the opening sentences, so the first one mentions it is simply "from her debut studio album, On the 6 (1999)", followed by writing/production and then add a sentence saying it was released as the album's lead single
"Jennifer Lopez, Fred Jerkins III," → "Lopez, Fred Jerkins III," and remove the refs since this is sourced in the body
""If You Had My Love" is a midtempo pop and R&B song that also features" → "A midtempo pop and R&B song, it features"
Pipe Latin to Latin music
"Its lyrics revolve around" → "The lyrics revolve around"
Rather than having the quotes from critics here, please summarize what they praised overall so simply note something like how they praised the groove and production; nice summarization though for starters!
[3][4] are not needed here per above
"it generated instant attention" → "the song generated instant attention"
"It was also an international success," → "The song was an international success,"
"It also contributed to" → "This also contributed to"
""If You Had My Love" has been described" → "the song has been described"
Mention this was by a few critics for the last part
"The song's accompanying music video (directed by Paul Hunter) features" → "The accompanying music video, directed by Paul Hunter, features"
Pipe voyeuristic to Voyeurism
Regarding the "push the envelope" quote, this is "pushed" instead in the body; please alter in whichever case it is not quoting the wording to match and re-word surrounding prose to accommodate
Wikilink as MTV Video Music Awards
Stylize as Billboard Music Awards
Add 2016 in brackets after the residency show

Background

Pipe Sony Music Entertainment to Sony Music
Wikilink pop music
"and "If the album" → "and it was thought, "If the album" or something similar to introduce this quote rather than simply "and"
"in New York City with engineers" → "in New York City (NYC) with engineers" per MOS:OVERLINK
Pipe mixed to Audio mixing (recorded music)
"in New York City, and subsequently" → "in NYC, and subsequently"
Pipe mastered to Mastering (audio)
"Lopez was almost finished recording" → "Lopez had almost finished recording"
The "Rooney believed" should have the ref invoked at the end per usage of quotes here
"and that it had already" → "and it had already"
"Jackson thought it had" → "Jackson thought the song had" and invoke the ref at the end of this sentence too

Composition

""If You Had My Love" is a" → "Musically, "If You Had My Love" is a"
Remove pipe on pop
Pipe hip hop to Hip hop music
Per the tag, re-word the contributing part to something like Lopez also penning lyrics
Remove wikilinks on piano and guitar

Thanks for not quick failing. Fixed those requests. igordebraga ≠ 17:54, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Igordebraga There are some missed here - first of all you need to add a sentence specifying this was released as the album's lead single separately from the introduction to it as from the studio album, change the pop and r&b song description to using the prose I mentioned since it does not read right currently and remove the refs for the critical reception. Remove the song next to accompanying music video since this implies it accompanied the song, also remove the ref for Janet Jackson and Madonna. Outside of this, all is good! --K. Peake 18:28, 14 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Retitle to Composition and lyrics
"her beau's affections."" → "her beau's affections"." on the audio sample text per MOS:QUOTE, plus there should be a comma before through
Where is the conversation part sourced specifically?
"and what I want," saying that" → "and what I want", saying that"

Critical reception

"down the Faith Evans pathway," but" → "down the Faith Evans pathway", but"
For "The Boy Is Mine" title, the comma should again not be in the quote
"with Lopez's public persona."" → "with Lopez's public persona"." per MOS:QUOTE
""catchy," writing that it "showcases the singer's style well."" → ""catchy", writing that it "showcases the singer's style well"." per above
"Beth Johnson of Entertainment Weekly was" → "Johnson of Entertainment Weekly was"
PopCrush should be italicised
"interpolation of Michael Jackson's" → "interpolation of Jackson's" and add the release year
"But Jerome Joseph, also" → "However Jerome Joseph, also"
"suggesting that it has" → "suggesting it has"
Use "the" before Deseret News

Chart performance

Retitle to Commercial performance
Remove pipe on Billboard
"aid the marketing side."" → "aid the marketing side"." per MOS:QUOTE
"it also reached the top ten" → "the song also reached the top 10" per MOS:NUM
Use a comma for the % increase rather than brackets
"did so with her single," → "did so with her single"
Work Group should not be capitalized nor linked here
"remained in the top ten" → "remained in the top 10"
"Hot 100 Singles Sales and R&B Singles Sales" → "Hot 100 Singles Sales, and R&B Singles Sales"
"six on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs and" → "six on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs, and"
"ranked it as" → "ranked the song as"
"It became the first of Lopez's 17 top ten hits" → "The song became the first of Lopez's 17 top 10 hits"
The source says 372,000 copies, not 366,000
The source for NZ certification does not work; archive will not allow to change the chart issue and the current URL does not have them
- Replaced.
"This does not happen all the time." part of the quote is not sourced, please replace with ... here until the end or source it
- The video used to embedded in the page, now it isn't. Put the link at the end of the ref, is that good enough or is there a better way?

Music video

Img looks good!

Production

The "Jennifer Lopez online" part is not sourced; please add the ref here that does mention
"women and little girls."" → "women and little girls"." per MOS:QUOTE, also the ref should be re-invoked here
"while Sean Combs came up" → "while Combs came up"
Where is the term "Plunging" sourced?

Synopsis

Img looks good!
Wikilink as binary numbers
Pipe internet television to Streaming television
Wikilink cyberspace
Remove link on remixed

Reception and impact

Remove wikilink on MTV
Mention the name of the Billboard reviewer and remove the link
Remove pipe on Vibe
Mention the BET reviewer by name
Pipe Nielsen Broadcast Data Systems to Broadcast Data Systems
Remove pipe on Billboard again
[6] should be invoked at the end of the Channel V review
"is under observation."" if this is not a full sentence, please move the punctuation outside of the quote and the ref needs to be re-invoked here
"it a naughty twist."" → "it a naughty twist"." per MOS:QUOTE
Add a comma after Best Pop Video
Stylize as 1999 Billboard Music Video Awards and pipe to Billboard Music Awards
"Best Pop Clip and" → "Best Pop Clip, and"

Live performances

Img looks good!
"on June 26, 1999." → "on June 16, 1999." per the source
"Fashionable Female Artist" should not have a full-stop inside the award name
"find myself now."" → "find myself now"." per MOS:QUOTE
Remove wikilink on Los Angeles Times
"in her wheelhouse," she" → "in her wheelhouse", Lopez"
"and intimate moment,"" → "and intimate moment","
"performed a striptease in which" → "performed a striptease, in which" and add the release year of "Girls"
Merge the last para with the above one and change New York City to simply NYC

Impact

Please replace the img with an alternate one or remove, as currently you are repeating the previous section text only with a different image
Mention the name of who wrote for Billboard and remove the link
Add the names of the writers for other publications too
"was something special."" → "was something special"." per MOS:QUOTE
Wikilink as Vanessa Williams
"that career crossover."" → "that career crossover"."
"defined by "If You Had My Love,"" → "defined by "If You Had My Love","
Invoke [42] at the end of the Chris Poppe sentence
Remove wikilink on Sony Music
Remove pipe on Complex
Pipe About.com to Dotdash Meredith
"with surging strings."" → "with surging strings"."
Remove wikilink on VH1
Ditto for Ricky Martin, Bustle and Rolling Stone
Digital Spy should not be italicised
"colourful personal life."" → "colourful personal life"."
"from his playlist" → "from his mixtape" and merge this with the above para
Remove or add a source for Melanie Martinez's usage

Track listing and formats

Good

Credits and personnel

Good

Charts

Weekly charts

Pipe IFPI to International Federation of the Phonographic Industry
Should Notimex really be wikilinked twice?

Year-end charts

Should UK Airplay really be here when you already have Uk Singles Chart?

Decade-end charts

Good

Certifications

Good

Release history

Set United States as Rowspan 2
Pipe Urban contemporary to Urban contemporary music

References

Copyvio score looks worse than expected at 42.9%; cut down quoting from Idolator to fix this please
Since things may change, I will confirm the ref numbers are this revision
Remove the publisher from the Entertainment Weekly refs 3 and 97
Cite Digital Spy as the sole citation and publisher instead on refs 5 and 117
Remove the publisher from ref 7
Pipe Twenty-First Century Books to Lerner Publishing Group on ref 10
Remove the publisher from refs 15, 72, 74 and 80
Remove the publisher from refs 16 and 77
Remove the publisher from ref 17
Cite Mix 104.1 only on ref 18 and as publisher instead
Cite AllMusic as publisher instead on ref 21
Pipe Peer International to Ralph Peer on ref 22
Ref 23 should only cite BBC Music and do this as publisher
Cite MTV News only for publisher on refs 25, 26, 47, 70, 87 and 110
Remove the publisher from refs 27, 56, 68, 98 and 103, also re wikilinking for sources, if you are going to do this continuously either enforce this every time or not please
Remove the publisher from ref 30
Ref 31 should only cite DVD Talk and as publisher
For Sony Music, it should be wikilinked to itself apart from the Japan wiki since that is separate
Wikilink PopCrush on ref 35 and only cite this
Remove the publisher from ref 36
Remove the publisher from refs 39 and 96
Remove the publisher from ref 40
Ref 49 should only cite Canoe.com and as publisher instead
Refs 51 and 92 should only cite CNN and as publisher instead
Refs 53 and 54 need proper formatting, moving Billboard around and adding proper titles
Cite Syndicat National de l'Édition Phonographique as publisher instead on ref 64 and pipe to SNEP
Cite Recording Industry Association of New Zealand as publisher instead on ref 66
Cite International Federation of the Phonographic Industry as publisher instead on ref 67
Remove the publisher from ref 73
Ref 75 should only cite BET and as publisher instead
MOS:CAPS issues with ref 76
Remove the publisher from refs 79 and 118
Wikilink University of Illinois Press on ref 80
Remove the publisher from refs 81 and 116
Fix MOS:QWQ issues with refs 85 and 124
Refs 86 and 102 should both cite Fuse and remove Fuse Networks
Ref 91 should only cite PR Newswire and as publisher
Ref 93 should only cite Netflix with the wikilink as publisher
Remove the publisher from ref 95
Refs 99 and 114 should only cite News.com.au and as publisher
Wikilink Gulf News and remove the publisher on ref 101
Remove or replace ref 107 per WP:RSPYOUTUBE
Remove the publisher from ref 108
Remove the publisher from ref 109
Remove the publisher from ref 111
Cite Radar Online as publisher on ref 112 and remove the other publisher
Remove the publisher from ref 113
Remove the publisher from ref 115
Ref 119 should only cite About.com and as publisher, piping to Dotdash Meredith
Remove or replace ref 120 since that is blacklisted on my server
Remove the current publisher from ref 121, making VH1 the publisher only
Fix citation issues with ref 139 please
Should Work Records be linked to Work Group on any of these refs?

Final comments and verdict

On hold until all of the issues are fixed; this article is somewhat messy but congrats on fitting so much info in here! --K. Peake 18:00, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kyle Peake: See if I missed anything (and given two articles I found to fix unsourced parts wound up added to the text, if I implemented them well). igordebraga ≠ 08:01, 17 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Igordebraga: I have done some copyediting and looked through now – there is still some work for you to do, however. Please remove pipe on Billboard in the commercial peformance section; change "It became the first of Lopez's 17 top ten hits" → "The song became the first of Lopez's 17 top 10 hits"; pipe Nielsen Broadcast Data Systems to Broadcast Data Systems; re-invoke the ref at "is under observation"; add a comma after Best Pop Video; cite MTV News and CNN as publishers; and wikilink Gulf News. --K. Peake 15:10, 4 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Anything else? igordebraga ≠ 00:16, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Igordebraga: You still have not unlinked Billboard at the duplicate link in the sentence of commercial performance about their comments on Work Group's images and in the lead, the song title should be mentioned at the part about her promoting it with performance. --K. Peake 07:03, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Done (missed the one in the commercial section because I delinked one in critical reception). igordebraga ≠ 21:28, 5 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

✓ Pass now, a quicker response from me this time! --K. Peake 07:47, 7 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]