Talk:Inspector Lestrade/Archive 1

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Archive 1

Name of page

Why is the page titled "George Lestrade" when the only thing the canon reveals about Lestrade's first name is that it begins with G? --Loopus 22:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll just copy here the discussion from my talk page (User talk:Lowellian) and User talk:Garion96:

Hi, I saw you moved the Inspector Lestrade article to George Lestrade. Where did you found the first name? I always thought it was never given in the Holmes stories. Cause right now it still states in the article that "In The Cardboard Box, his first initial is revealed to be G.". Garion96 (talk) 22:54, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

I moved it to George Lestrade because I felt it was more appropriate for a page to give a person's name than the person's title. As for "George", that was because the article stated his name to be George before I ever edited the page, and because I assumed that the information in the article was correct.

However, after you commented on my page, I became curious as to the source of the name "George", so I did a computerized search through the texts of all the original Sherlock Holmes stories and books by Arthur Conan Doyle. I do not know if Lestrade's name is ever given, but my search revealed that it was definitely not stated to be George, so that information is incorrect.

Furthermore, I searched through the page's history. The information was added by an anon, User:193.180.228.186, who first gave the name as Richard (see diff [1]) and then immediately changed the name to George (see diff [2]). This looks like subtle vandalism to me, and I have thus reverted the change and moved the page back to Inspector Lestrade. —Lowellian (reply) 08:03, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I think that clears up the matter. Thanks to User:Garion96 for bringing this to my attention.

—Lowellian (reply) 08:09, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 14:43, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

"Original pronunciation"

The article before my last change had contained the sentence

Doyle used the name (originally pronounced in the French way: l'estrade "less-TRAHD") of an acquaintance from his days at the University of Edinburgh, a St. Lucian whom Doyle disliked.{{fact}}

That threw me on first reading: if Conan Doyle "originally" pronounced it correctly as "less-TRAHD", was the article implying that Doyle's preferred pronunciation had changed over time (perhaps to "less-TRADE")? But I concluded after a while that the article was just trying to say that the Saint Lucian had pronounced his own name that way (and since Doyle's Inspector Lestrade was a character in a printed work, maybe we don't even know how Doyle pronounced the Inspector's name). Still, it's far less confusing to put the "right" pronunciation first in the article, and let the unverified Saint Lucian fend for himself. --Quuxplusone (talk) 22:10, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

There's obviously some confusion, 'cause while I (& many) would say "luh strahd", French-fashion, it's likely at the time, Brits would've said (as Jeremy Brett did on at least one occasion as Holmes) "luh straid". (IMO, it's the more period authentic.) Is there anything authoritative, & citeable, saying which Doyle preferred? TREKphiler ^{hit me ♠} 22:41, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Apparently Basil Rathbone said /ləˈstrɑːd/. We need some sort of citation before we can go one way or the other in the article; if there's no definitive answer, we should just say that. garik (talk) 11:07, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

In the 2009 Guy Ritchie movie, Holmes (Robert Downey, Jr.) pronounced it "Les-TRAHD". (Of course, maybe he had seen the Wikipedia page!) Nuggetkiwi (talk) 19:57, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

AMENDMENT: This section claims that the French pronunciation of Lestrade rhymes with "odd" which is invalid for most English speakers, including many Americans. I shall delete the word "odd" and substitute the universally recognised phonetic symbols. Melba1 (talk) 22:40, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

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