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Improvements

I have done major improvements to this article, but it still needs a lot attention. I am hoping others will help me and contribute towards expanding and rewriting some of this article. Also, this article is about the "Iraqi people" whether in Iraq or abroad, so it should not be redirected to "demographics of Iraq".

Who is an Iraqi?

I think that the correct definition of Iraqi should be "a citizen of modern Iraq", and that obviously excludes those deceased before the formation of the Kingdom of Iraq in 1932. Claiming that Hammurabi was an Iraqi is as absurd as saying that Julius Caesar was Italian or that St. Augustine was Algerian.--Rafy talk 11:43, 23 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking about the same thing. Why should anything before the formation of Iraq be in this article? The examples above shows how absurd that is. Shmayo (talk) 00:13, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User Ellipi wrote this on this talk page earlier: "My argument is that if by Iraqi People citizens of Iraq are meant then it would be better to merge the article into demographics of that country as in: Syrian people, Afghani people, Kuwait/People, Jordanian people etc", and I do agree with him. Shmayo (talk) 00:25, 26 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Exactly!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.228.26.200 (talk) 00:29, 14 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Merging the page for Iraqis and Demographics of Iraq

I think this version is very heavily sourced, and not from one source, but many, and it does not include an Arabist bias and seems quite neutral to me. Maybe merging the pages of Iraqis and Demographics of Iraq into one is a good idea? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mesopotamiology (talk • contribs) 11:17, 26 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Lead?

@Mesopotamiology: @Semsûrî: Howdy hello folks. Semsûrî posted on my talk asking for some intervention here. The real intervention that seems to be needed here is some discussion between y'all. Each of you has a different version of the lead, please discuss for a bit why you think your version is superior, and try to think how you could compromise. I will watch this discussion and chime in as necessary. Please do not revert the article while discussing, if you do so I will be forced to protect the article from all edits. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 17:41, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I can start with the quote found on Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section: "The lead is the first thing most people will read upon arriving at an article. It gives the basics in a nutshell and cultivates interest in reading on—though not by teasing the reader or hinting at what follows."

Now, the current lead is not "nutshell information" but more like an attempt to link modern-day Iraq to Mesopotamia (and if 20,000 bytes of text is needed so be it). Also, I honestly think only a fragment of visitors are motivated to read the whole lead.

Secondly, outright bad references are used like [1]. Also, a tweet by the Iraqi PM is used to to justify this ridiculous claim: "The Iraqi people, sometimes colloquially, Mesopotamians, or the people of Mesopotamia".
Lastly, some of the references do not even mention Iraq but deal with the history of Mesopotamia, and are used in a misleading way (outright lies). For example, this reference[2] is used to claim that Ancient Iraq is referred to as Mesopotamia and has throughout its history been a multiethnic and multicultural region. But there is no such thing in the reference.

--Semsûrî (talk) 18:32, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@CaptainEek: It seems nudging would help here. --Semsûrî (talk) 09:45, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It seems @Mesopotamiology: has not edited in about a month, so we'll just have to wait until they're around again. Though since they have not engaged, I would say your version of the lead can probably suffice for now. CaptainEek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 18:01, 28 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@CaptainEek: I have a feeling they'll return when they find out the lead has been changed. When that happens, they should come to the talk and explain. I'll revert to my version for now. --Semsûrî (talk) 13:18, 29 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Iraqis outside Iraq are mostly Sunnis

There are between 8-10 million Iraqis outside Iraq, most of them are Sunnis. Sunni Iraqis left Iraq at the end of the twentieth century and migrated largely after the end of the Iraqi kingdom and began to leave since then, and a large part emigrated during the Arab-Israeli war, some immigrated during the October war and the Iran-Iraq war And the second Gulf War and the siege on Iraq, where more than one million to two million Iraqi Sunnis left during that era, hoping for a better life, but 80% of Sunni Iraqis left after 2003 because of the Iraq war, sectarian displacement and demographic change for Sunni Arabs and their great oppression before The US army and the Iraqi Shiites, who displaced hundreds of thousands, displaced more than 200,000 Sunni residents of Basra, and displaced more than a million and a half Iraqi Sunnis from Baghdad. The displacement began in all the governorates of Iraq, including southern Iraq, Diyala Governorate and Baghdad. Sunni Iraqis began To leave Iraq for fear of being killed, especially during sectarianism in Iraq, and many emigrated after ISIS occupied three Sunni provinces. Sunni Iraqis, especially Arabs, consider 80% of the Iraqi immigrants outside Iraq, where they are the majority in my country. Ka, Britain, Sweden, Turkey, Jordan, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Russia, Egypt, Yemen, Libya, Australia, Poland and all other countries سامر القنطي (talk) 18:31, 28 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]