Talk:Jay Jay the Jet Plane
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Anthony Appleyard: Can you provide proof of the "legal guy" claim you make on the webpage? I have several videos, and have checked, I don't hear that word at all, I only hear "little" (maybe being Canadian, pronouncing words differently from Americans, has something to do with it, but I've never had a difference with those words before ... ) I'll try to get an answer from Wonderwings / jayjay.com as well --Canuckguy 14:10, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
- I live in England. To my British ears the word is clearly "legal", and has been thus all the hundreds of times that I have heard it. Anthony Appleyard 23:13, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
- I did hear back from Wonderwings, they didn't correct me but didn't confirm either (mainly thanking me for throwing in praise for the show as well.) I'll see about renting something with closed captioning, but until then, could we maybe remove that part from the article? Not in claiming that I"m right and you're not, but mainly because it isn't proven yet (and imho, only proven material should appear in an encyclopedia.)--Canuckguy 00:03, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
- It is proven to me. I have heard that short poem in the introduction hundreds of times. OK, this "legal" is likely a mispronunciation of "little", but he still pronounced it "legal". Anthony Appleyard 06:47, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
- That's just silly.
- Closed-captions show it as "little"; I hear it pronounced as "leedle", which sounds either sloppy or just like an attempt to be overly-cute.--Gladys j cortez 08:25, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
- I'd like to note that Anthony Appleyard has a history of making somewhat quirky and doubtful revisions. In a revision dated 2005-04-17 (which I subsequently reverted) he changed the description of Brenda Blue to "Plump woman". Anyone that thinks Brenda Blue is plump is either a joker or has an anorexic's sense of of body image. Based on this I tend to think the whole legal/little thing is just additional trolling. --Platyk 05:15, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
- I am not a troll. Re "a history of ... revisions", please list enough examples to constitute "a history of" and to justify the plural in "revisions", rather than the one example about Brenda Blue being "plump". OK, sorry, by "plump" I was exaggerating. Sorry. But I have heard the "legal guy" poem clearly hundreds of times. Anthony Appleyard 07:26, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Why does Snuffy redirect here? There should be a disambiguation page to distinguish the character on Sesame Street from the one mentioned here, not to mention any other uses of the name that may be out there. --18.104.22.168 03:04, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
"Much good matter with good advice"???
No way. I'm moving it toward NPOV. Jaysbro 03:39, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
Other Jay Jay Show
Wasn't there a another Jay Jay show that was wasn't CGI? It appeared to be models and animation. Shouldn't there be a small section about it? Chaz 19:41, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
- Perhaps you are referring to Budgie the Little Helicopter. 22.214.171.124 22:50, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Nope. It was Jay Jay and had 3 videos: Jay Jay's First Flight, Old Oscar Leads the Parade, and Tracy's Handy Hideout. Chaz 22:17, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
Ages of Jay Jay, Tracy, Herky and Snuffy.
- I have raised a factual accuracy dispute on this article over the entries which specify how old the character is. As far as I am aware, and I do a lot of work relating to animation, I can find no source to specify how old Jay Jay, Herky, Snuffy and Tracy are, despite this information being apparent in the article. If anyone can point me to an official, verifiable source of this information, I will remove the dispute tag. Until then, I need more proof... Thor Malmjursson 12:01, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
- http://pbskids.org/jayjay/care.faq2.html says that Jay Jay and Tracy are 6, Herky is 5, Snuffy is 4. Anthony Appleyard 11:09, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the information Anthony. I am happy with this as an official source, and the dispute is therefore resolved. Thor Malmjursson 12:49, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
OK, now I'm confused…
(Context: I'm watching this in the UK: today's episode is #135) The article says that "Brenda Blue" is played by Eve Whittle, and she does indeed appear on the cast-list at the end of the show (and on the PBS website). However there is an extra credit at the start which says she's played by Vanessa Stacey instead (and also giving the narrator as Brian Cant as mentioned above). Observation makes it clear that the Vanessa Stacey credit is correct, which is also noted on that article. The question which remains is: what actually does Eve Whittle do on the programme? Is she on a version which is shown somewhere else? HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 08:04, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
- I'm going to say that the UK version clearly has different actors playing some of the parts, as part of some attempt at making the show seem less American. 126.96.36.199 15:24, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Also, the Korean version of the show has Korean actors while the Japanese one has Japanese actors. Perhaps they replace the human actors for each country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 20:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
First series was not CGI?
On 13 April 2007 someone inserted into the ==Trivia== section "The series was originally released in 1994 using models of the characters.". The only series of Jay Jay the Jet Plane that I remember is of the 80 episides as listed, CGI. Please where is more information about this earlier non-CGI series? Or did someone see the first CGI series and think in error that it was not CGI? Anthony Appleyard 04:46, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
I very much remember this being a CHRISTIAN show- my little brother was into it when he was younger. The article doesn't say a thing about this. However, I know there's several volumes of it on tape and later DVD that are specifically Christian, such as this: http://www.christianbook.com/Christian/Books/cms_content?page=96818&sp=1023 And this: http://www.amazon.com/Jay-Jet-Plane-Fantastic-Faith/dp/0849975468
- ZaininOmega, I moved your comment down here; it's always best to comment at the bottom of the list, to keep comments in date order. As for your links...holy cow. I looked at the Amazon link, and it seems that Focus on the Family commissioned "special editions" of Jay Jay, to be marketed to a Christian market. Per Amazon, the only thing "religious" about it is that it mentions God once or twice--not any particular version of God, either--but the Bible quotes they show in the sleeve copy make it pretty clear. Just...wow. Gladys J Cortez 00:06, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
Removed trivia ("Miscellaneous")
I have just removed the following section as it is a trivia section. Most of the info is original research (comparision of the propellor speeds, etc.) and the live action models info is already mentioned in the intro paragraph (with refs). Some of the info here may be relevent to the article's subject, but should be incorporated elsewhere into the article if at all possible.
- This article contains a list of miscellaneous information. (February 2009)
- At first, Jay Jay the Jet Plane came in comparison to Thomas and Friends. The show was shot using live-action models, mainly the jets built to scale, and crafted humans, such as Brenda Blue and E.Z. O'Malley. This version was named the "pilot series", leading up to the CGI series of Jay Jay. The personalities of the characters were as in the current version.
- Consistency between some of the episodes depends on the order of the episodes. For example, one episode says that Snuffy has not flown further away from Tarrytown than Lightning Bug Lake, but other episodes show him flying much further; in "Catch the Buzz" Snuffy still has not got rid of his original shyness, but in many other episodes he shows no sign of shyness.
- Sometimes the planes taxi on the town streets.
- Each episode contains one or more songs. Each song only seems to occur in one episode.
- The first 20 stories show the propellers spinning very slowly. Beginning with the story "Picture Day", the propellors are made to look more believable. The remaining stories have the propellors spinning rapidly (unless a character is underwater). Also before "Picture Day" the characters had lights but they did not appear to function. The opening theme has the propellers spin rapidly. This opening is used for the entire series.
- In the original series, Herky spoke with a stutter. In the CGI series, he rolls his "R"s whenever he speaks, and often pronounces stressed "er" as long vocalic "r" ([ɹ̩]), e.g. "I'm Herky" as [aɪm hɹ̩ːˈkǐ], with a strong high-rising pitch accent on the final "-y".
- Restored. Often one man's cruft is another man's important relevant matter. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:01, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
I have just incorporated all the info into relevent sections of the article per the trivia message. This may clean up the article a bit (the "How the series was produced" section definately needs some sourcing as well). trainfan01 talk 6:52, March 13, 2011 (UTC)