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Married with Children

I'm watching Married With Children and Jefferson is wearing one of their jerseys. The episode called "The D'Arcy Files". 72.86.42.38 (talk)!~ Duly noted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.29.27.68 (talk) 18:13, 18 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Team Logo

The team logo identified in the infobox was never used at any time during the Monarchs' existence. As I recall, it was created for marketing purposes at least two decades after the team's demise. Most Negro league teams did not have logos other than the city's or team's name in script. The logo identified as "cap logo" is actually from the front of the uniform circa 1940s. Not a huge issue, but most of the fancier logos we now associate with most of the great Negro league teams were created long after those teams ceased operations. -- Couillaud 16:59, 16 March 2015 (UTC)

Looking at the history, I guess I'm responsible for uploading it. This site [1] shows several Monarchs logos. Are any of them genuine? If so, it shouldn't be a problem to replace it with a more accurate logo. BRMo (talk) 03:02, 17 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I wouldn't worry about "responsibility"; it was done in good faith. Besides, while I mentioned the retro-logo, I did not suggest that we have to discard it; I just wanted to make it known that many of these retro-logos were not actually contemporaneous with the Negro leagues teams themselves.

We can assume that any of the five that have a specific year associated with them are real (some of which I recognize from Ebbets Field Flannels), and the picture of the uniform (2nd row, 1st on left) was also real -- the "KC" inside the heart meant "Heart of American". If you can find a picture of one of them large enough to display, use one, or just use the legit one that we already have. Easy clue is that any logo in that group that has a "TM" on it was created and trademarked by the Negro Leagues Museum, which, while all about the Negro Leagues, doesn't really do much financially for the players themselves. You can see many of them on the reference page: The Birmingham Black Barons' logo with the diamond stickpin, the Chicago American Giants "CAG" in front of the baseball (you may notice that in their real logos they used "CA" but not "CAG"), the fancy "H" in Homestead Grays, etc.

The truth is most Negro League teams did not have anything resembling a PR officer, nor much help from their local media (and even then, only from the Negro media, if it existed in their town), nor much money to invest in any artwork other than what was standard issue, so most of the authentic Negro baseball logos were of fairly simple, spartan design. Not always, but generally.

As I said, I wouldn't really worry much about it, but it was a note for future reference. Hope this helps. Good to see you around.

--Couillaud 21:24, 18 March 2015 (UTC)

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Little mention of Tom Baird

Is there any reason why this article barely mentions co-owner T.Y. Baird? Baird started the team with Wilkinson in 1919, yet first mention of him on this page is when he bought out Wilkinson in 1948. I've read that Baird was less well-known in broader baseball community compared to Wilkinson. Thoughts? Anna M [[User:AnnaAMad]] (talk) 02:31, 30 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Honestly, I don't think he was all that important nor had much impact on the team, until they really didn't matter all that much. Wilkinson was more the heart & soul of the team, ownership-wise. If you're looking to insert the KKK association, be familiar with WP:UNDUE. Really belongs in his article more than here. YMMV. Rgrds. --Bison X (talk) 17:17, 6 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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