Talk:Keystone Cops

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Move request[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The article explains that the "Keystone Kops" spelling is unauthentic and that "Keystone Cops" was originally correct.

So why is the name of the article, and references to the films in the article, not changed to "Keystone Cops", if this is correct? The "Keystone Kops" spelling should be mentioned as a common misspelling, but the films should not be otherwise referred to as such. -- 89.212.17.91 01:51, 20 November 2006

I agree with the above post. Why is everything referred to with the K-spelling if this is nominally incorrect? Is the term "Keystone Kops" in a dictionary with the K-spelling or something? I will try to remember to revisit this article in a few weeks and change it if no-one presents any kind of counter-argument. 216.154.4.30 23:26, 6 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree as well. If there is any objection to a such a move, please explain it; otherwise I will move the page. -- Infrogmation 20:18, 12 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

This article has been renamed from Keystone Kops to Keystone Cops as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 21:04, 17 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

And the two anecdotes of people referring to anti-terror policies as "Keystone Cop"-like suggest to me that someone had an ax to grind when including them. I agree that modern citations are useful, but the suspiciousness of these reeks of political agenda. -- 71.115.197.6 12:45, 31 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keystone Kops[edit]

Also otherwise known as a colloquial term for NSW Police Detectives. A term well deserving and exhibited by Kempsey Detectives in a recent highly publicised hearing.

The policemen depicted in Sherlock Hound remind me of Keystone Cops. :) -- Pichote (talk) 21:42, 23 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keystone Kops is right, the move was wrong[edit]

The claims in the article about the name are totally without support. "Kalton C. Lahue and others" are not valid citations. On the other hand, I've checked three references -- Britannica, Katz's Filmgoers Encyclopedia and IMDB, and they all use Keystone Kops. An article should not be moved or name changed on the basis of uncited assertions. J M Rice (talk) 16:56, 26 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't the first bad page move I've found. Still, nothing done? Viriditas (talk) 02:16, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Viriditas (talk) 11:50, 26 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The 1935 film reenactment[edit]

The article says that a reenacting of the Keystone Cops movies made in 1935 is often claimed to be authentic "Cops" footage, and shows them doing many of the things we think of when we think of when we think of the Keystone Cops. So does that mean the original movies weren't like that? If not, maybe the differences should be explained. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.41.43.216 (talk) 15:11, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keystone Cops v. Keystone Kops[edit]

I do not have a firm view about what is the correct spelling. However I note that "Keystone Cops" was decided by a formal move request, but it was moved to "Keystone Kops" without such a request. I have had a look at a few of the films available on the Internet Archive, and they do not name them at all. PatGallacher (talk) 20:34, 2 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Whichever spelling we use should at least be consistent. Right now we have the article at "Cops" but "Kops" is used throughout the text, which is very strange. - furrykef (Talk at me) 23:44, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I think that "Cops" was the original spelling but it got changed with the release of "Abbott and Costello Meet the Keystone Kops" in 1955, therefore "Cops" should be preferable. But I could be all wrong about this..... Roccobam (talk) 02:29, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

It would be a nice addition to the article to include the history of the spelling and why and when it changed.50.205.142.35 (talk) 03:57, 20 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Pizza chain[edit]

There was a Keystone Pizza company that used to have a large number of locations, mainly in the Pacific northwest. The restaurants had a 1910's 1920's theme and had endless loop film projectors running Keystone Cops movies or 1960's TV cartoons. The chain appears to be defunct or reduced to licensing/franchising the name only, with store owners responsible for sourcing food and other supplies. There does not seem to be a corporate website, though there is one for a Keystone Pizza in Pennsylvania with only two locations, using green and yellow predominately where the other company used red, black and white. Bizzybody (talk) 01:56, 7 March 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Tropes/removing frames[edit]

I seriously doubt one out of four frames was removed to speed up the action, that would be very labour intensive, involving a lot of splicing. A ten second sequence would require the film to be cut and spliced 50 times.

More likely is that they used the technique of undercranking, filming at a lower frame rate than the movie would be projected in, ie filming at 14 fps for a film that would be shown at 20 fps.198.84.225.10 (talk) 04:58, 4 May 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Why Keystone?[edit]

I believe the Keystone State is Pennsylvania.--Jack Upland (talk) 08:37, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]