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Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was moved to Ko-Ko. Aervanath (talk) 20:37, 13 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Koko (Parker)Ko-Ko — The correct name for the song. — Jafeluv (talk) 07:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC) See evidence below. — Jafeluv (talk) 07:55, 4 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Survey

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Discussion

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Any additional comments:
  • I have a suggestion. If people really feel that the Mikado character would be primary usage for the term, how about this: Make Ko-Ko a redirect to The Mikado, with a hatnote saying "Ko-Ko redirects here. For other uses, see Koko (disambiguation)". Then, move this page to Ko-Ko (composition). This way, the character gets primary usage and the composition is moved to its correct name. Jafeluv (talk) 09:21, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • That's one way to do it but I don't think it's really necessary. It's unlikely the Mikado character would ever have its own separate article, and I think it's fairly unlikely too many people will be searching for or linking directly to the character Ko-Ko as opposed to The Mikado. Plus it adds an ugly second hatnote to The Mikado of use to only a few people. (Currently, Ko-Ko as a redirect has no bad incoming links and is getting only around 100 hits per month, as opposed to 17,000-25,000 for The Mikado.) I think it's better to have this article at "Ko-Ko" with a hatnote along the lines of "For the operatic character, see The Mikado. For other uses, see Koko." Station1 (talk) 20:15, 11 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

ellington's "koko"

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Does anyone know if it's just a coincidence that Duke Ellington was recording a song called "Koko" at least as early as 1940? Are the two songs related? They sound different, but all I hear in the Parker and other versions is wild soloing and I can't make out the tune. The Duke Ellington version sounds distinctly like a Duke Ellington composition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.15.235.17 (talk) 03:08, 2 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ko-Ko by Charlie Parker

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There should be little doubt about who plays trumpet on this track as Miles Davis, himself, states at the beginning of chapter 4 of his autobiography ('Miles The Autobiography', with Quincy Troupe, pub. 1989 Simon & Schuster) that Dizzy Gillespie plays trumpet on that and several other fast tempo tracks on the same album ('Charlie Parker's Reboppers') because he, Davis, did not think he "was ready" to play "tunes at the tempo of 'Cherokee' (Ko-Ko)". He also, in the same passage, gives some clues as to who plays piano on that and other tracks. This information - from the 'horse's mouth', so to speak - should scotch most of the 'rumors' quoted in this article. [User:Alan Roberton|Alan Roberton]] (talk) 12:22, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

"Ko-Ko" or "Ko Ko" ?

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"Ko-Ko" or "Ko Ko" ? The 2009 discussion above shows that Savoy eventually, and I presume consistently, spelled it with a hyphen. In my personal cataloging, I list songs the way they were spelled on the original release. And the label for Savoy 597 shows it spelled with a space instead of a hyphen.

Well, I don't think anyone's going to let me change the name of the article. However, there are a couple of sentences in the article that don't reflect the article name of "Ko-Ko".

The first sentence says '"Ko Ko" (also spelled "Ko-Ko" or, less frequently, "KoKo") is a 1945 bebop recording composed by Charlie Parker.' To be consistent, I'll change it to '"Ko-Ko" (also spelled "Ko Ko" or, less frequently, "KoKo") is a 1945 bebop recording composed by Charlie Parker.'

Another sentence says, 'Duke Ellington also wrote and recorded an unrelated song entitled "Ko-Ko" (note the hyphen) in 1940 at Victor's studios in Chicago.' 'note the hyphen' would make sense if you were pointing out how the names were different, but since the names are now the same I will take that phrase out. PatConolly (talk) 03:01, 21 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]