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Unclear sections referring to political events but without geographical or national reference[edit]

  • "the coup d’état of 1980" Please could someone make that "the Turkish coup d’état of 1980" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.125.178.72 (talkcontribs) 11:56, 22 July 2015‎ (UTC)
WP:JUSTFIXIT.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  10:14, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Kurdish migration to Turkey[edit]

Kurds who fled Iran-Iraq war from 1988 Halabja : 60.000-120.000

Kurds fleeing the 1.Gulf War 1991 : 460.000 [1]

Kurds who fled civil war in Syria : 400.000 Syria civil war [2]

ISIS terror Yezidis fled : 100.000 [3]

Kurdish population in Turkey: Kurdish population in Turkey before 1980 was around 9-11%. Iran-Iraq war of Halabja,First Gulf War,Gulf War 2,Syria civil war Began to increase, Today, the Kurdish population in this migration has reached 14-16%

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.178.45.153 (talkcontribs) 15:00, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Bullshit :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.250.15.59 (talkcontribs) 16:59, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
If neither of you cite sources, no one is going to act either way. Please see WP:Verifiability for why we cite sources, and WP:Citing sources for how to do so. Thank you.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  10:18, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Please change 5 tribes to 4 tribes[edit]

zaza people do not consider themselves to be kurdish. they have different religion, language and traditions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.55.145.33 (talkcontribs) 20:53, 26 July 2015 (UTC)‎

Please cite sources.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  10:12, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

40 million?[edit]

Fixed

around 40 million ? really wikipedia ? i am eagerly waiting when you fix this bullshit. aprox they are 25-30.. furthermore zaza is not kurdish. they are different people their language is unique not like kurdish dialects.

I've checked all our available sources. It's a min. of 30mil (counting known diaspora), probably at least 32mil, and a max of 37mil (but even that depends on a source the interpretation and primary sources of which are uncertain). No idea where the 40mil figure came from. I've updated the article to get rid of it.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  10:10, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Infobox problem[edit]

The population data in the infobox all needs to also appear in the article, and the citations moved there (just use <includeonly><ref name="Foo" /></includeonly> for citations in the infobox). This stuffing of detailed citations, with embedded quotations, and loads of conflicting population data into the infobox is causing WP:POVFORKing between the infobox and it's own article! We're saying in the article that the Syrian population "is" 9%, but wehave half a dozen sources in the infobox indicating that the exact figure is quite uncertain. That info, in clearly written sentence form belongs in the population section of the article. Same goes for every other area. I've dealt with this problem with regard to Turkey, and done several hours of other cleanup on both the article's and infobox's citations. Someone else's turn now.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  10:08, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Citation cleanup[edit]

Let's try to cleanup the citations more. This crazy page is using over a dozen inconsistent citations styles, has incomplete citations, broken ones, and other problems, and many have URLs that have not been checked in ages. I'd suggest starting with all the Encyclopædia Iranica cites (the work we're citing most, and citing most inconsistently). Use {{cite book |title=Cited Article's Title (without subtitles or quote marks, and using Title Case not the original's ALL-CAPS) |first1=Firstname |last1=Lastname |date=the "Last Updated" date at the bottom of the cited article |work=[[Encyclopædia Iranica]] |edition=Online |editor-first=Ehsan |editor-last=Yarshater |editorlink=Ehsan Yarshater |publisher=Center for Iranian Studies, Columbia University |location=New York |url= http://www.iranicaonline.org/path_to_article |accessdate=4 August 2015 |quote=Excerpt if really needed, without quote marks.}}

And let's try to adapt more of the excessive quotations in the citations into encyclopedia text. We should be quoting less than 10% of the amount of material we're filling up the References section with right now.  — SMcCandlish ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ʌ≼  10:08, 3 August 2015 (UTC)