Talk:Law Enforcement Force of the Islamic Republic of Iran

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Proposed merge with Traffic police of Iran[edit]

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little more than a single sentence definition. Should be merged to the parent article until a notable article can be written. RadioFan (talk) 22:30, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

 Done -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 23:28, 21 October 2014 (UTC)


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Name of the page[edit]

Iranian police force is internationally known as Law enforcement force(see CIA fact book, UNICEF and etc) , not disciplinary force nor security forces, so I believe this page should be named Law Enforcement forces of Islamic Republic of Iran.Farzam1370 (talk) 19:39, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

As the sources given clearly showed, there are a variety of terms used. They no longer show this, since you deleted the sources giving the name "Disciplinary Force(s)". However the sources using the term "Law Enforcement", which are not Iranian-linked in their content, are not claiming that is the name of the organization, just using the term to describe what they are. The actual name, as used by the Iranian-linked sources you deleted, as well as if you use a dictionary and translate the Persian, is "Disciplinary Force". Mesoso2 (talk) 10:50, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
If you have paid enough attention, my edit did included the name Disciplinary Force but used Law enforcement Forces as the main name.
You say that Iranian-linked sources use Disciplinary force while below you can see two Iranian source(including IRIB in 2014) using the term Law Enforcement Forces, as I said earlier most western and international sources too use the term Law Enforcement Forces, and by the way I am an Iranian so I am definitely have more knowledge about the Persian language.
Here is the two sources.
http://english.irib.ir/news/iran1/item/191425-police-chief-stresses-law-enforcement-forces-good-conditions</ref>
http://multimedia.tasnimnews.com/Media/Gallery/520052
Farzam1370 (talk) 16:44, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
Can you give details of which Persian-English dictionary translates انتظامی as "law enforcement"? Mesoso2 (talk) 22:56, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
I don't know about any online Persian-English dictionary, but the word انضباطی in persian can be translated as Disciplinary, while the word انتظامی should be literally translated as order keeping, both of these words are Arabic words which are used in Persian with modification, but the Law enforcement is used by most Official English Iranian and international sources.Farzam1370 (talk) 14:52, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13920713000682 http://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/OFAC-Enforcement/Pages/20110629.aspx

See the ref below too.Farzam1370 (talk) 14:59, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

http://www.proz.com/kudoz/farsi_persian_to_english/certificates_diplomas_licenses_cvs/2492092-%D9%86%DB%8C%D8%B1%D9%88%DB%8C_%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%B8%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C.html#5567987

It needn't be an online dictionary, books are excellent sources, but it needs to be a dictionary. If you can find one your translation seems reasonable, if you can't find one to support your translation then we will need to request further opinions from other editors. Mesoso2 (talk) 22:10, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
Its better to ask further opinions from other editors.Farzam1370 (talk) 14:30, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
Here is an online Persian dictionary translating نیروی انتظامی as Law enforcement force, And there is another one which translates two different sentence using law enforcement.Farzam1370 (talk) 14:50, 2 December 2014 (UTC)

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  1. ^ http://www.aftabir.com/dictionaries/word/143098/%D9%86%DB%8C%D8%B1%D9%88%DB%8C-%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%B8%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C-law-enforcement-force
  2. ^ https://fa.glosbe.com/fa/en/%D9%86%DB%8C%D8%B1%D9%88%DB%8C%20%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%B8%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C%20(%D8%BA%DB%8C%D8%B1%20%D8%A7%D8%B2%20%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AA%D8%B4)