Talk:Legend of the Octopus
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"Etiquette?"
[edit]"Etiquette?" Why not put instructions for at-home abortions on the Abortions page, or advice on picking locks on Burglary, while we're at it? I'm taking the section out. Tserton (talk) 02:37, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
- Maybe because some fans might want to know more about the tradition than "well, things get thrown"? Maybe because it isn't at all comparable to abortions or lock picking? Maybe because the section discusses the proper preparation of the octopus to prevent it from sticking to the ice and causing a mess (which was the justification provided by the NHL for the Octopus ban)? Maybe because the New York Times thought that it was newsworthy? But then again, there's lots of things on Wikipedia that require censorship, why should this be any different? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.14.183.129 (talk) 14:31, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
- Yup, someone REALLY doesn't like the Etiquette section. But instead of discussing it, s/he removes it, claiming "no citation" (despite the link to the New York Times article) and then calls it "just plain stupid". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.14.183.129 (talk) 02:43, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
I'll get to work on that how to guide for at home abortions. I don't know much about lock picking though. Le Douche? But of course! (talk) 23:54, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
Removed
[edit]I've removed the section and made reference to the existence of "etiquette" in the lead. That article takes a one off sentence and a source and writes something akin to either a word for word reprint or an original study into the subject. If there are more articles or sources that support an actual established ettiquete then this would make sense to include in full. -- TRTX T / C 19:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
Plural of Octopus
[edit]According to the linked New York Times article the correct plural form of the word octopus is octopodes, but it is almost never used. It further states that while octopuses and octopi are commonly used for the plural form, octopuses is three times more common.
If the plural is octopi, then someone needs to head over to the Octopus page and change the forty-plus occurrences of the word octopuses to octopi. That, and delete the entire Terminology section of that article.--69.14.183.129 (talk) 14:47, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
Whether we decide to go with the prescriptive linguistically correct "octopodes" or the more-common "octopuses", it sure as hell isn't "octopoda", which is currently on the page. 74.76.236.44 (talk) 00:19, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
- Changed it to "octopodes", thanks for pointing this out. Maxim(talk) 03:08, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
- Changed to Octopuses from Octopodes. Octopodes is correct only when discussing taxonomy (members of the family Octopodia). When discussing the creature itself Octopuses is correct. See article on Octopus, section on pluralisation. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.18.56.52 (talk) 15:06, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
The problem stems from the (ignorant) assumption that "octopus" came to us from Latin; we, actually, borrowed it from Greek. In Latin, the word is ottopus and two or more is ottopi. In Greek, two or more is octopodes (ahk-tah-poh-deez). In English, though, octopuses is the best, standard from. Pine (talk) 11:34, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
No Naysayers?
[edit]I'm sure there are a lot of people who disagree with this practice. How come there's no criticism section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Squidvillanueva (talk • contribs) 12:17, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
- Feel free to add a criticism section, with documented links. I'm certain that several NHL coaches have complained about the practice and that the NHL instituted the Octopus Ban in response to the complaints. However, knowing that there are complaints and properly documenting the complaints are two different things.--24.192.7.39 (talk) 02:24, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Plural
[edit]There has been recent activity to alter octopuses to octopi. Please see Octopus#Etymology and pluralization for why these are incorrect. As the article notes, "The usual plural in English is "octopuses"..." See also the discussion above. Keri (talk) 11:22, 24 April 2015 (UTC)